Lotr Tournament Amsterdam planned on 7th of february: The open Middle-Dutch

[Gil-Estel]

Ehm...huh?...hahaha. Gewoon de nieuwe sites. Dus alle kaarten worden gespeeld op de nieuwe sites. Dus regio 1,2 en 3 + de shadowcost van de site en wat je aan twilight hebt gemaakt in je fellowship. Dus geen aanpassing van de oude sites, die doen gewoon niet meer mee....al zou je misschien daar ook een fix in kunnen maken.....maar dat is wel lastig ....

[Smeagollum]

Wat vind je van mijn fix?

[Smeagollum]

Okay people,

Propasal:

I might concider the austrian system for rounds 1 & 2: set 1 - 10 (without set 9); rounds 3 & 4: set 7 - 19; round 5 either first deck or 2nd deck. But Only if I see 10 subscribments to the tournament in my messagebox!!! And I want people to be able to use the old sites with the following system:

site cost - cost originail region + cost played region:

example: Site 5 with cost 8 tt-block played in region 3

site cost 8 - Originial region (would be region 2) 3 + Played region (would be 3 in this example) 6= 11 twilight

Every card is allowed. Further block rules.

In this case you only need to make 2 decks (you lazy people:) )

[Ringbearer]

I propose against it. I have 0 cards from the later sets and they still will be important to play. They tournament appealed to me to play once again with those nice old cards, a nice old school tournament.
The format itself might be interesting, but I like much better just the old sets for this one, because thats what I signed up for. I mean, the new formats are played online so much, why not go back to the good ole days as you wanted before.

I for one will not play if post set 10 cards are allowed.

[Smeagollum]

Sorry people I need to do this in Dutch

Hoi Bert,

Ik begrijp het probleem met kaarten post set 10. Ik heb wel de kaarten, maar mijn zorg ligt anders. Ik begrijp alleen uit reacties dat veel mensen dis systeem willen. Met dit systeem kan je gewoon de oude decks spelen dus met oude kaarten. En ik denk dat je met het deck dat je voor ronde 3 en 4 gebruikt zeer zeker uit de voeten kan tegen iemand met post-10 kaarten. Denk alleen al aan een besiegerdeck. Wanneer je wilt kan je ook een deck van mij lenen...

[Mc Tono]

Sorry guys I need to do this in English (because I like that language better than my own and I think it`s interesting for foreigners.)

I think the solution is very simple: Smeagollum: thanxx for organising a tournament (very scarce in Holland) you organise you decide. Players don`t want to play a certain format? wait until the next tournament or better yet: organise your own.

Every change you make (on such short notice) will exclude some players and enable some players. So stick to the plan you had with some friends (like Bert the Ringbearer) to organise a tournament based on the fist 3 blox so that they can also play. I like that idea!
 Austria is also nice but there are some drawbacks. (read more about this in the trollswarm/horncombo topic etc.)

Stick to the original plan so I can begin building.
I will bring my big bag of post Mt Doom commons (and uncs) and I will be happy to make a great deal in a trade (like a hundred cards against one, or twohundred or so, ask Daniro for my reference on that matter)

Looking forward to playing other (old- and newschool) Lotr players.

[Elrohir]

I have to support Austrian Format - So I sign for it up here -> *Elrohir*

There is no drawback!! Trollswarm/Horndeck is a standard version!!

No one is excluded, old cards are allowed as well, and there are no broken combos possible! I do not understand the problem!

I like block decks really - but it seems, Ostenrijk Format fits better than any other.

yours sincerely
Elrohir

PS: Trolly-horny-deck are not good decks...they are too bad!

[Mc Tono]

There is no drawback!! Trollswarm/Horndeck is a standard version!!

If what your saying is true, there has been some misunderstanding about the Austrian format: there was a guy at the European Championship who played a horn troll deck, and the format there was: Austrian! And we wasn`t stopped! If I`m correct it IS possible to play a standard deck in an Austrian format. Or isn`t it? For both shadow and freeps side you have the choice to take cards out of sets 1-10 or 7-18 or am I wrong, because if I am: so was the whole European tournament.
Or am I talking orc-poo Olorin85?

I have to support Austrian Format - So I sign for it up here -> *Elrohir*

I`d like to sign up.

but

for what?

another tournament? seems great to me, this summer maybe in Holland?
What say you Gil-Estel?

PS: Trolly-horny-deck are not good decks...they are too bad!

I disagree and I`ve never even played one. Maybe NBarden would like to explain it again as he did so wonderfully in the Erkenbrands-horn-debate-topic

[Gil-Estel]

It is possible to play a standard deck in Austrian Format, but is indeed important to keep most people onboard and able to think about certain decks. Still, to break a spear for Austrian (dutch saying litterally translated ) format, just 1 round out of 5 can't be bad....But I rest my case with whatever you come up with JW ...another tournement would be awesome, but it takes some organising stuff....I'm willing to, but we need to put some dots on the I's....

Trollswarm with Horn isn't that lethal, under certain circumstances. Horn is extremely weak vs Archery, corruption and swarm...you just need to survive the swarm...kill Keyward, save the World

[Elrohir]

Trollswarm with Horn isn't that lethal, under certain circumstances. Horn is extremely weak vs Archery, corruption and swarm...you just need to survive the swarm...kill Keyward, save the World

Well spoken!

I disagree and I`ve never even played one. Maybe NBarden would like to explain it again as he did so wonderfully in the Erkenbrands-horn-debate-topic

-> If anyone plays a Troll-Horn deck (which I know exactly how to build), the opponent will immediatley recognize its strategy. So, its very obviously how to react.

McTono: You are right about Austrian Format. I just wanted to say, that a standard format also allows to play trollswarm. So I want to say sorry, if I have had confused you. Hope, things come clear,

with kind regards
Elrohir

CONCERNING NEXT TOURNAMENT
I thought we had already said to play the next european championship (summer 2009) in Manchester?
Italy had already agreed to come to manchester, although they can not come to Amsterdam...

[Gil-Estel]

Where is Italy?...Why aren't the Nine Walkers on here? We must combine our strength..haha

[Smeagollum]

Okay, now I am getting confused.....

What do you guys want? My original plan, what I like the most and what will keep Ringbearer in, which I think is important or the Austrainvariant (my last proposal).

And pleae note that I want to keep Bert in. Even as it means that there will be a few players less.

And so far not very much people made clear if they come or not!!!

[Olorin]

Where is Italy?...Why aren't the Nine Walkers on here? We must combine our strength..haha

...the nine walkers... they are so lazy... we can call them: the nine sleepers... hahaha...

Gil-Galad, King89, Elrohir... and me, we are some of them... ;-)

...and please consider... when organizing a tournament... keep everything (rules, format... etc.) easy... easy... easy... don't use to much specifiactions, exceptions, etc. (this is allowd, this not, etc. - keep it simple!)

[Mc Tono]

Okay, now I am getting confused.....
...
What do you guys want?

It doesn`t matter what we want it`s your tournament.

maybe its an idea to start a list of players that you know of that will come, modify the list everytime a new player signs in. (soort groeilijst)

[Elrohir]

I have tried to sum things up:


"I am planning the tournament the 7th of februari at de 2 klaveren in Amsterdam. If you come by car see following link for details: http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=de+2+klaveren+amsterdam&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image
If you come by train from Central station take tramnr 13, From Amstelstation take tramnr 12 and from Sloterdijk tramnr 14. Get out at stop "elizabeth wolfstraat" and walk towards the bridge. Adress: De Clercqstraat 136, 1052 NP Amsterdam? - 020 6189125?

1. There will be an admit one fee of 5 euro. This is because we will play in a commercial cafe and last time we organized a tournament over there everybody brought his own drinks and food and the owner of the cafe was not happy about that. For this admittance-fee you will get 2 cosumptions.

2. I am still working on Prize-support.

3. Judge is Marc Hameleers

Here is a link to the current rulings document: http://decipher.fanhq.com/Resources/PDF/LOTR-CRD_081307.pdf"