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December 12, 2008, 01:57:55 PM
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2008, 01:57:55 PM »
Mountain-troll got X-d because of Rallying Orc/Demoralized, and Demoralized hit the X-list for it. Mountain-troll is lot less effective now, I cant see him being X-list worthy

Shadowfax is shut down by threat decks, possession discard

I am gonna stop posting about this... needless to say I feel several of those choices are a joke, I hope you take no offence Enola, but whoever makes these decisions in France needs to enjoy the game, not break its back.
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December 12, 2008, 02:30:25 PM
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2008, 02:30:25 PM »
Gondor would be omnipresent if Ferny stays....


Are you really playing possession discard in your Corruption deck  :-S ?? I don't think so...


Try to have a format which has a real stability and no auto-win deck, and you see how easy it is....

It's not a joke, people spent a long time on it and you can enjoy the game easier if you don't have any NPE.


Think about it,

December 12, 2008, 02:49:31 PM
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2008, 02:49:31 PM »
Their are other cultures that can handle Ferny not just Gondor. I won't go into it. Like TheJord, I think some of these x-listing are a bit sad. Glad I don't play in France and if a PC gets going and the French own the decisions I guess I will be forced to burn all my cards and play Pokemon :lol:.
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December 12, 2008, 03:04:27 PM
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2008, 03:04:27 PM »
Gondor would be omnipresent if Ferny stays....


Are you really playing possession discard in your Corruption deck  :-S ?? I don't think so...


Try to have a format which has a real stability and no auto-win deck, and you see how easy it is....

It's not a joke, people spent a long time on it and you can enjoy the game easier if you don't have any NPE.


Think about it,

So, basically you want a vanilla-style game with no perks and no strategies that are remotely hard to counter.
By the same token all [men] archery should go down the drain, along with countless other strategies.  :roll:

Also, you keep saying you autorized Orkish Smith. What does 'autorize' mean?
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December 12, 2008, 03:26:50 PM
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2008, 03:26:50 PM »
Glad I don't play in France...blabla...

Very intelligent post. Thanks :).



So, basically you want a vanilla-style game with no perks and no strategies that are remotely hard to counter.
By the same token all [men] archery should go down the drain, along with countless other strategies.  :roll:

Also, you keep saying you autorized Orkish Smith. What does 'autorize' mean?

Not at all, there are still really big decks, but we try to limit the condition :"all against one deck because this deck rules too good in the actual meta".

Decipher doesn't communicate any x-list after TD and Age's End, we have to do something....


Autorize (it's French sorry :P) = legal

December 12, 2008, 03:30:36 PM
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2008, 03:30:36 PM »
Decipher doesn't communicate any x-list after TD and Age's End, we have to do something....

Erm T&D cards got errata... Frenzy of Arrows, Gothmog etc
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December 12, 2008, 05:54:55 PM
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2008, 05:54:55 PM »
Glad I don't play in France...blabla...

Very intelligent post. Thanks :).

Misquoting a small excerpt from somebody's post to make them look like an idiot is not called for. He makes legit points.


So, basically you want a vanilla-style game with no perks and no strategies that are remotely hard to counter.
By the same token all [men] archery should go down the drain, along with countless other strategies.  :roll:

Also, you keep saying you autorized Orkish Smith. What does 'autorize' mean?

Not at all, there are still really big decks, but we try to limit the condition :"all against one deck because this deck rules too good in the actual meta".

Hello? Ferny is perhaps one of the least played decks in standard! (I mean real standard, not this fake standard). Why? Because he's easy to counter! Sure, he's a rock, paper, scissors type of deck. Some decks he'll mutilate, chop up and spit out. Others, its a free walk to 9 on the adventure path. He's unpredictable and unreliable, but he's a blast.

If someone figures out the meta where they play and builds a ferny deck, good for them! Don't ban Ferny because your decks suck. Decipher expanded quite drastically on how the game was played, initiative, flat-out minion discarding, site revolution, enhanced wounding strategies, etc. If you don't like it, play fellowship block, don't try to make standard into something its not.


Decipher doesn't communicate any x-list after TD and Age's End, we have to do something....


Autorize (it's French sorry :P) = legal
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December 13, 2008, 01:58:47 AM
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2008, 01:58:47 AM »
Sorry but your posts seem to be more and more aggressive  :(.


Ban Ferny was a difficult choice. I see that he has a real fan club here  :P, but this choice was voted by few people. I democratically support this ban, while knowing it's debatable.


This X-list is constantly changing to find a new stability.


T&D cards got errata... Frenzy of Arrows, Gothmog etc

Yeah, by the way the Frenzy of Arrows errata was really well thought...

Errata doesn't keep the game well structured, you autorize :
- New Chapter & Erkenbrand's Horn, taking out all cards in first site isn't Lotr game
- The Great Ring, explain me how you swarm the RB ??
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December 13, 2008, 02:27:30 AM
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2008, 02:27:30 AM »
ok guys, you've given enola enough crap already, so just shut up and let the french do whatever the heck they want. i would hate to see a contributing memeber like enola leave just because you aren't a fan of his x-list.

December 13, 2008, 03:58:21 AM
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2008, 03:58:21 AM »
let the french do whatever the heck they want.
My thoughts exactly, as I mentioned earlier somewhere else on this forum: from now on every gathering will have their own rules. I say: the one who organises (a tournament) decides. Don`t like the format?--> don`t play it.
This way many new formats will be invented, which makes the game even more interesting I think.

I can hardly wait to play G-E in a capture the flag game "par example" (that`s french) ???

December 13, 2008, 05:57:40 AM
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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2008, 05:57:40 AM »
ok guys, you've given enola enough crap already, so just shut up and let the french do whatever the heck they want. i would hate to see a contributing memeber like enola leave just because you aren't a fan of his x-list.

Legit point. Apologies.
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December 13, 2008, 03:20:41 PM
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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2008, 03:20:41 PM »
ok guys, you've given enola enough crap already, so just shut up and let the french do whatever the heck they want. i would hate to see a contributing memeber like enola leave just because you aren't a fan of his x-list.

True. Its not like Enola wrote the X-list anyway...

December 14, 2008, 02:25:42 AM
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« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2008, 02:25:42 AM »
McTono...will you join me in a flag-capturing journey next week? I would be honored.....
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December 14, 2008, 01:36:00 PM
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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2008, 01:36:00 PM »
Thanks for stopping this dialogue of the deaf,

we just have two different points of view about the control of the meta.


It wasn't really easy with my poor English :P.


"par example" (that`s french) ??

You're close ;), for example = par exemple

December 15, 2008, 02:08:01 PM
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2008, 02:08:01 PM »
And for the first time, I split the Topic after it was split from another one! The "language" bit is now on the Council of Cobra.