Assassin The Game 3.0

[JamesCB]

Location Question #5:
Is the location's game text passive or active? (Passive: "When the fellowship moves from here, remove ." Active: "Fellowship: Play a Man to draw a card.")

[Incognito]

Weapon question 3: is the weapon a possession?

No.

[Incognito]

Location Question #5:
Is the location's game text passive or active? (Passive: "When the fellowship moves from here, remove ." Active: "Fellowship: Play a Man to draw a card.")

Not a yes or no question.

[Tunadan]

Location Question #5:
Is the location's game text passive?

[Incognito]

Location Question #5:
Is the location's game text passive?

Yes.

[Tunadan]

Weapon question 4: Is the weapon an artifact?

[JamesCB]

Thank you Tunadan for saving my passive/active question.

Victim Question #4
Is the victim strength 11 or greater?

[Incognito]

Weapon question 4: Is the weapon an artifact?

No.

[Incognito]

Thank you Tunadan for saving my passive/active question.

Victim Question #4
Is the victim strength 11 or greater?

Yes.

[Phallen Cassidy]

Ooph, 4 questions to find out we know less about the murder weapon than we thought we knew at the start. There are just over 180 events and 120 conditions in Fellowship block, and if we ask the ideal question and half the pool for each of the remaining question we come down to... 1-2 cards to pick from. Oh, but we can cut out conditions that don't have special abilities! That puts us down to ~60 conditions and ~180 events. Ideal questioning definitely gets us to an answer in the next 8 questions, and if we're almost-ideal we can still get to it with only 7 questions.

Quick assumptions -- one question to learn the card's side, one (hopefully) for type, two for culture, two for phase, and that would leave us with just two questions to figure out what the card is from there. Doable depending on the culture, but we may also wind up guessing between 2-3 cards at the end. Phase and culture are the weak spots here: if one of those takes longer it'll leave us picking between one of 3-9 cards depending on how unlucky we are. And that's only if this is an event or condition... Aragorn threw Gimli at Uruk-hai, after all

So I think we should leave culture and phase alone for a while, maybe some of the other clues will naturally cause all e.g. Elven cards to fall off the way all underground sites were eliminated by the time we got to guessing if the site was a sanctuary. Card type too, since at the moment if it's an event we only remove 60 cards by asking instead of the ideal 120. And yet, without knowing culture, phase, or card type I'm not really sure what to ask. We can ask something along the lines of "does it place a wound token on a character" but it's going to be really hard to filter down to what that means without some tuning beforehand, especially after two or three of that type of question.

Side will also knock out either all FP or Shadow cultures and either the Fellowship or Shadow phase, that might be our best bet? Rarity cuts the field into thirds but it's a gamble whether we're left with 1/3rd or 2/3rds of the possibilities. Any other ideas? Even if we do ask about side, what would be a good follow-up question? Culture, phase, and card type would all still be pretty far from halving the remaining cards but what else do we ask about?

[Incognito]

Now you see the danger in forcing your own theories and presuppositions instead of following the evidence.

What will it be coppers? Will you follow the clues this time?

Missing one vital detail could scuttle your whole case.

[JamesCB]

This is not necessarily new information, or even very useful, but I remember a while ago learning about a Guess Who? strategy that said every guess cut the options down by half (like Phallen said). They do this by asking questions with or. "Does your character have blue eyes or brown hair?" This is a yes or no question because it's not asking which one you are "blue-eyed" or "brown-haired", but whether or not you are either one. If you had either, you would answer yes, otherwise (if you had neither), you would answer no.

Perhaps there is someway we could use this, like "Is the weapon a condition or a strength boost?" (Note: Not necessarily a useful question; don't use this unless it's been thought through.)

In the mean time, I'm going to add every event and condition (and maybe character) to the list at the top of page 2.

[Tunadan]

Side will also knock out either all FP or Shadow cultures and either the Fellowship or Shadow phase, that might be our best bet? Rarity cuts the field into thirds but it's a gamble whether we're left with 1/3rd or 2/3rds of the possibilities. Any other ideas? Even if we do ask about side, what would be a good follow-up question? Culture, phase, and card type would all still be pretty far from halving the remaining cards but what else do we ask about?

I think that rarity is a safe bet. Two questions (max) to cut out 2/3 of the pool is pretty good. We still would have 6 questions after that.

[JamesCB]

Just realized the weapon could be the ring.

[JamesCB]

Side will also knock out either all FP or Shadow cultures and either the Fellowship or Shadow phase, that might be our best bet? Rarity cuts the field into thirds but it's a gamble whether we're left with 1/3rd or 2/3rds of the possibilities. Any other ideas? Even if we do ask about side, what would be a good follow-up question? Culture, phase, and card type would all still be pretty far from halving the remaining cards but what else do we ask about?

I think that rarity is a safe bet. Two questions (max) to cut out 2/3 of the pool is pretty good. We still would have 6 questions after that.

We could also just go full on collector's info; guess the set and card number that way too.