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May 27, 2008, 08:10:15 AM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - All Dead, All Rotten
« Reply #120 on: May 27, 2008, 08:10:15 AM »
Eh, that's okay. Still a nice touch.
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May 27, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
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« Reply #121 on: May 27, 2008, 11:20:44 AM »
I'm with dain on all counts, who is with thran on all counts, so I am with thran on all counts.
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(after all, it's a CHARITY organization, I still have SOME principles, even having gone through Law School... :P),
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May 28, 2008, 02:25:33 AM
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« Reply #122 on: May 28, 2008, 02:25:33 AM »
I've toned down all dead all rotten quite a lot in response to comments. It is now fairly similar to Wraith-world, but has the advantage of being twilight and response timing.

Looks much better now!

Lemon - blame the bank holiday! I didn't post more than usual...

Pants!

Today I have a miscellanea of cards (is that a word?) relating to various themes that the Wraiths like to dabble in.

No its not a word :P

[1] Barrow Patrol [Wraith]
Event • Skirmish
Make a Wraith or Nazgul strength +2 (or +3 if you can spot a  tomb).
"A pale greenish light was growing round him."

Sound.

[3] Stars Shall Die [Wraith]
Event • Skirmish
Make a [Wraith] minion strength +1 for each card in each dead pile.
"...till the Sun fails and the Moon is dead."

Wow, harsh. But ok.

[1] Black Wind [Wraith]
Event • Regroup
Exert a [Wraith] minion to remove a Free Peoples card in a discard pile from the game.
"Suddenly a song began: a cold murmur, rising and falling."

Ouchy! Horrible and petty!

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May 28, 2008, 11:42:03 AM
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« Reply #123 on: May 28, 2008, 11:42:03 AM »
miscellanea
Firefox thinks its a word....
Felipe Musco:
(after all, it's a CHARITY organization, I still have SOME principles, even having gone through Law School... :P),
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May 28, 2008, 02:05:55 PM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - All Dead, All Rotten
« Reply #124 on: May 28, 2008, 02:05:55 PM »
Remember Morgul Wound that makes companions twilight? Here are some more things to do once the companions have crossed over to the other side:

  • Fog on the Barrow-Downs [Wraith]

Condition • Support Area
Twilight.
Each time bearer is assigned to skirmish a twilight minion, you may remove [1] to add a threat.
Skirmish: Transfer this condition from your support area to a companion skirmishing a twilight minion.
"'Where are you?'"

[2] Wither [Wraith]
Event • Skirmish
Twilight.
Make a Wraith or twilight minion strength +2. Then, if he is skirmishing a twilight companion, you may exert that minion to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched it, it writhed and withered and was consumed."

And an event the likes of which I don't think LotR has seen:

[3] The Other Side [Wraith]
Event • Shadow
Exert 3 Wraiths or Nazgul to make each card in play gain twilight until the regroup phase (and if the Ring-bearer has resistance 5 or less, he puts on The One Ring until the regroup phase).
"Immediately, through everything else remained as before, dim and dark, the shapes became terribly clear."
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 05:05:14 AM by Anvar »
"There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea's asleep, and the rivers dream; people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace. We've got work to do."
-Doctor Who

May 28, 2008, 02:46:18 PM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - All Dead, All Rotten
« Reply #125 on: May 28, 2008, 02:46:18 PM »
[1] Fog on the Barrow-Downs [Wraith]
Condition • Support Area
Twilight.
Each time bearer is assigned to skirmish a twilight minion, you may remove [1] to add a threat.
Skirmish: Transfer this condition from your support area to a companion skirmishing a twilight minion.
"'Where are you?'"
Again, a perfect candidate for a weather card. This seems fair enough.

[3] Wither [Wraith]
Event • Skirmish
Twilight.
Make a Wraith or twilight minion strength +2. If he is skirmishing a twilight companion, you may exert that minion to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched it, it writhed and withered and was consumed."
Also awesome. Perhaps it could cost [2], though.

[3] The Other Side [Wraith]
Event • Shadow
Exert 3 Wraiths or Nazgul to make each card in play gain twilight until the regroup phase.
"Immediately, through everything else remained as before, dim and dark, the shapes became terribly clear."
Perhaps you could increase the cost and also make the Ring-bearer wear the One Ring - after all, that's what allowed Frodo to see the twilight world.

Thranduil

May 28, 2008, 05:27:05 PM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - All Dead, All Rotten
« Reply #126 on: May 28, 2008, 05:27:05 PM »
Quote from: Anvar
[1] Fog on the Barrow-Downs [Wraith]
Condition • Support Area
Twilight.
Each time bearer is assigned to skirmish a twilight minion, you may remove [1] to add a threat.
Skirmish: Transfer this condition from your support area to a companion skirmishing a twilight minion.
"'Where are you?'"

Yeah, this IS a good candidate for weather. You've got a nifty little mini-theme going without meaning to! :mrgreen:

As for the card's current text...nice! You'd need a small rule rewrite to make it clear that the twilight is gained by that companion, though. Otherwise, you might want to word it "Bearer gains twilight".

Quote from: Anvar
[3] Wither [Wraith]
Event • Skirmish
Twilight.
Make a Wraith or twilight minion strength +2. If he is skirmishing a twilight companion, you may exert that minion to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched it, it writhed and withered and was consumed."

Probably should be "that minion" instead of "he", but not a real big deal there.

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[3] The Other Side [Wraith]
Event • Shadow
Exert 3 Wraiths or Nazgul to make each card in play gain twilight until the regroup phase.
"Immediately, through everything else remained as before, dim and dark, the shapes became terribly clear."

I like Thran's suggestion...'twould make a little more sense then. But I like the idea. Very, very interesting. :twisted:
Best regards,
Dáin


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May 28, 2008, 05:32:14 PM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - The Other Side
« Reply #127 on: May 28, 2008, 05:32:14 PM »
Unlike Morgul Wound (above somewhere), Fog on the Barrow Downs doesn't actually make the companion that bears it twilight. Only Morgul Wound and The Other Side can make companions twilight at the moment.

And as to weather cards, the chapter I'm focussing on has the word 'fog' in the title, so I suppose it was inevitable ;-)

Small change made to The Other Side.

Anvar
« Last Edit: May 28, 2008, 05:36:19 PM by Anvar »
"There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea's asleep, and the rivers dream; people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace. We've got work to do."
-Doctor Who

May 29, 2008, 01:28:55 AM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - All Dead, All Rotten
« Reply #128 on: May 29, 2008, 01:28:55 AM »

[1] Fog on the Barrow-Downs [Wraith]
Condition • Support Area
Twilight.
Each time bearer is assigned to skirmish a twilight minion, you may remove [1] to add a threat.
Skirmish: Transfer this condition from your support area to a companion skirmishing a twilight minion.
"'Where are you?'"

Reckon this could be free as its not amazing.

[3] Wither [Wraith]
Event • Skirmish
Twilight.
Make a Wraith or twilight minion strength +2. If he is skirmishing a twilight companion, you may exert that minion to make him fierce until the regroup phase.
"And behold! there lay his weapon, but the blade was smoking like a dry branch that has been thrust in a fire; and as he watched it, it writhed and withered and was consumed."

Add a "then" before "if he is", and he should be he/she shouldnt it? :P This could easily cost 1 i really cant see the need for 3.

[3] The Other Side [Wraith]
Event • Shadow
Exert 3 Wraiths or Nazgul to make each card in play gain twilight until the regroup phase (and if the Ring-bearer has resistance 5 or less, he puts on The One Ring until the regroup phase).
"Immediately, through everything else remained as before, dim and dark, the shapes became terribly clear."

Not sure i like such a blanket card, seems to easily made without thought of the implications of everything.

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May 29, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - The Other Side
« Reply #129 on: May 29, 2008, 12:10:14 PM »
Thanks for all comments. A couple of support cards today before I finish off the Wraith culture tomorrow with a final group of minions.

[1] Piercing Cry [Wraith]
Event • Maneuver
Exert a [Wraith] minion to add a threat. If you cannot add a threat, add a burden instead.
"Then the Black Captain rose in his stirrups and cried aloud in a dreadful voice, speaking in some forgotten tongue words of power and terror to rend both heart and stone."

[1] Timeworn Blade [Wraith]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +1
Bearer must be a Wraith or twilight minion.
Bearer gains enduring 1.
"But across their three necks lay one long naked sword."

EDIT: Somehow, I forgot that Ancient Blade is the name of an Elven Condition (obviously). Love the autolink feature for such things.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 04:47:15 AM by Anvar »
"There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea's asleep, and the rivers dream; people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace. We've got work to do."
-Doctor Who

May 29, 2008, 12:22:30 PM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - The Other Side
« Reply #130 on: May 29, 2008, 12:22:30 PM »
Quote from: Anvar
[1] Piercing Cry [Wraith]
Event • Maneuver
Exert a [Wraith] minion to add a threat. If you cannot add a threat, add a burden instead.
"Then the Black Captain rose in his stirrups and cried aloud in a dreadful voice, speaking in some forgotten tongue words of power and terror to rend both heart and stone."

I know it's wordier, but perhaps add in "(or heal that minion if it is enduring)". I like this, though. Nice and simple.

Quote from: Anvar
[1] Ancient Blade [Wraith]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Bearer must be a Wraith or twilight minion.
Bearer gains enduring 1.
"But across their three necks lay one long naked sword."

Nifty! No complaints.
Best regards,
Dáin


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May 29, 2008, 03:50:06 PM
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« Reply #131 on: May 29, 2008, 03:50:06 PM »
Also no complaints.

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May 29, 2008, 06:10:51 PM
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« Reply #132 on: May 29, 2008, 06:10:51 PM »
snazzy. gp
Felipe Musco:
(after all, it's a CHARITY organization, I still have SOME principles, even having gone through Law School... :P),
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May 30, 2008, 01:20:02 AM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - The Other Side
« Reply #133 on: May 30, 2008, 01:20:02 AM »
Ha to buck the trend i have complaints! Muhahaha.

Id say spot not exert on the first one. An event to add 1 threat isnt worth exerting and paying a cost for. The burden is just a nice bonus. And on the second one i feel enduring 1 isnt enough to make me use this. Most weapons give +2 strength in addition to some bonus. This only gives 2 strength if youre wounded twice and only becomes ok if youve taken 3 wounds which isnt that good in the first place.
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May 30, 2008, 02:48:01 AM
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Re: Return to the Paths of the Dead - The Other Side
« Reply #134 on: May 30, 2008, 02:48:01 AM »
Obviously I wasn't paying huge amounts of attention earlier...

I agree with lem0n! :mgreen:

Though, the advantage of the exertion on Piercing Cry is that it boosts your enduring minions.

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