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May 20, 2008, 11:39:41 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/20: "She's always hungry....")
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2008, 11:39:41 AM »
Continuing with Shelob and Gollum for now, here are a couple new cards. How about some direct wounding, eh? :twisted: Enjoy!

[1] Caught In A Web [Gollum]
Event • Response
If a [Gollum] minion or Spider wins a skirmish, add a threat for each wound the losing character takes as a result of losing that skirmish.
"‘Naughty little fly, why does it cry?'"
Snazzy! :gp:

[2]Always Hungry [Gollum]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a [Gollum] minion.
Shadow: Play a [Gollum] minion to add a threat (or 2 threats if that minion is Shelob).
Skirmish: Discard this condition and remove 2 threats to wound a companion skirmishing a [Gollum] minion (twice if that companion is a Hobbit).
"‘She always needs to feed.'"
works for me...wow...if you can get gollum on the RB thats evil
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May 20, 2008, 02:52:45 PM
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Sooooo...I'm a little confused. You think she's good, or needs some type of tweaking?
Not so much a rating, as random thoughts about it (up to you whether they warrant tweaking). I don't think she needs to be made better, but not being familiar with your design philosophy, I don't know if you minded if she made LCoU obsolete. I do think Shelob has needed a slight power increase, and the permanent damage +1 (along with enduring and fierce) could be just the ticket. :)

[1] Caught In A Web [Gollum]
Event • Response
If a [Gollum] minion or Spider wins a skirmish, add a threat for each wound the losing character takes as a result of losing that skirmish.
"‘Naughty little fly, why does it cry?'"
Sweet(er meats)! :D I get what you're saying, but the phrasing seems kind of awkward. It's because by the time Caught is played (as an optional action), wounds from losing the skirmish will have already been assigned. Maybe "has taken since losing that skirmish" but it'd require remembering the character's original vitality if other distractions get in the way (threats are assigned, YaLaaT is played, etc.).

And if Caught is worded so it plays when the Free Peoples character is about to lose, it's strange for a response action to be sticking around working its magic until some later time.

...You sure you don't want to change this to a transferable condition? *LOL*

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[2]Always Hungry [Gollum]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a [Gollum] minion.
Shadow: Play a [Gollum] minion to add a threat (or 2 threats if that minion is Shelob).
Skirmish: Discard this condition and remove 2 threats to wound a companion skirmishing a [Gollum] minion (twice if that companion is a Hobbit).
"‘She always needs to feed.'"
Ah, this looks like threat heaven, but still balanced on the Gollum end because Always Hungry + FOWI is like CbtR + FOWI. Getting threats from Shelob is amazing, but playing both Gollum and Shelob (for maybe 4 threats a turn) might result in too many wounds, especially when NG can pop a companion every turn.

The skirmish ability is icing on the cake.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 05:55:11 AM by Elessar's Socks »

May 21, 2008, 07:54:43 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/20: "She's always hungry....")
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2008, 07:54:43 AM »
Just one more [Gollum] card before we move on to something completely different. :hey: Enjoy!

[3] Go In Or Go Back [Gollum]
Event • Regroup
Spot a [Gollum] character and 3 threats (or Sméagol) to make the Free Peoples player choose to move again this turn (if the move limit allows).
"‘I can't go back....'"
« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 03:17:52 PM by DáinIronfoot »
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May 21, 2008, 09:00:33 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/21: "I can't go back....")
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2008, 09:00:33 AM »
That smiley scares me quite a lot...

Seems a bit undercosted. I definitely think it should be about [3] and require Gollum surviving. Awesome lore/title interaction though!

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May 21, 2008, 11:22:31 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/21: "I can't go back....")
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2008, 11:22:31 AM »
works for me ! :gp:
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May 21, 2008, 03:14:09 PM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/20: "She's always hungry....")
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2008, 03:14:09 PM »
[3] Go In Or Go Back [Gollum]
Event • Regroup
Spot a [Gollum] character and 3 threats (or Sméagol) to make the Free Peoples player move again this turn (if the move limit allows).
"‘I can't go back....'"
:o I want! Might suggest rephrasing it as "choose to move again this turn" to make it consistent with the others.

May 22, 2008, 02:21:32 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/20: "She's always hungry....")
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2008, 02:21:32 AM »
Just one more [Gollum] card before we move on to something completely different. :hey: Enjoy!

Stop using that smily!

[3] Go In Or Go Back [Gollum]
Event • Regroup
Spot a [Gollum] character and 3 threats (or Sméagol) to make the Free Peoples player choose to move again this turn (if the move limit allows).
"‘I can't go back....'"

Wow very evil, i really hated forced march it was so npe cos it was really easy to achieve, this is similar but probably ok.
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May 22, 2008, 07:02:58 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/21: "I can't go back....")
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2008, 07:02:58 AM »
Well, I promised something completely different today, and I like to keep my promises. So here's some NON-[Gollum] stuff. Enjoy!

[5]Shagrat, Keeper of the High Pass [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 5
Damage +1. Hunter 1.
While you can spot Shelob or 2 other [Sauron] Uruk-hai, Shagrat is strength +1 and fierce.
"‘I'm in command of this pass. So speak civil.'"

[5]Shagrat, Captain of the Dark Tower [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 6
Damage +1.
Shadow: Exert Shagrat twice and spot 3 possessions or 2 artifacts to make each [Sauron] Uruk-hai fierce until the regroup phase.
"‘Now, now. I have my orders. And it's more than my belly's worth, or yours, to break ‘em.'"

[2]That's Mine! [Sauron]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 2 [Sauron] Uruk-hai (or Shagrat).
Each time a Free Peoples possession (except a mount) is played, add [1].
Shadow: Discard a [Wraith] Orc and spot X possessions to make a [Sauron] Uruk-hai strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘It was Gorbag started it, trying to pinch that pretty shirt.'"

We'll get to his partner in crime, Gorbag, tomorrow. You'll see some definate similarities....
« Last Edit: May 22, 2008, 10:03:50 AM by DáinIronfoot »
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May 22, 2008, 07:09:46 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/21: "I can't go back....")
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2008, 07:09:46 AM »

[5]Shagrat, Keeper of the High Pass [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 5
Damage +1. Hunter 1.
While you can spot Shelob or 2 other [Sauron] Uruk-hai, Shagrat is strength +1 and fierce.
"‘I'm in command of this pass. So speak civil.'"

I dont see why Shargrat would get strength from Shelob, the flavour isnt quite there.

[5]Shagrat, Captain of the Dark Tower [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 6
Damage +1.
Shadow: Exert Shagrat and spot 3 possessions or 2 artifacts to make each [Sauron] Uruk-hai fierce until the regroup phase.
"‘Now, now. I have my orders. And it's more than my belly's worth, or yours, to break ‘em.'"

Exert twice.

[2]That's Mine! [Sauron]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 2 [Sauron] Uruk-hai (or Shagrat).
Each time a Free Peoples possession (except a mount) is played, add [1].
Shadow: Discard a [Wraith] Orc and spot X possessions to make a [Sauron] Uruk-hai strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘It was Gorbag started it, trying to pinch that pretty shirt.'"

Why a Wraith orc? Gorbag? Thats not a great multiculture support! Im not sure about the ability, too hard to call.

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May 22, 2008, 07:15:07 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/21: "I can't go back....")
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2008, 07:15:07 AM »
[2]That's Mine! [Sauron]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 2 [Sauron] Uruk-hai (or Shagrat).
Each time a Free Peoples possession (except a mount) is played, add [1].
Shadow: Discard a [Wraith] Orc and spot X possessions to make a [Sauron] Uruk-hai strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘It was Gorbag started it, trying to pinch that pretty shirt.'"

Why a Wraith orc? Gorbag? Thats not a great multiculture support! Im not sure about the ability, too hard to call.

[Sauron] Uruks and [Wraith] Orcs will be tied pretty tightly together in this set...one of the things I think Big D dropped the ball on in the original King block. Probably doesn't make it much easier to call, but at least one card tomorrow might help make it a LITTLE clearer.
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May 22, 2008, 09:30:11 AM
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[5]Shagrat, Keeper of the High Pass [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 5
Damage +1. Hunter 1.
While you can spot Shelob or 2 other [Sauron] Uruk-hai, Shagrat is strength +1 and fierce.
"‘I'm in command of this pass. So speak civil.'"
Yeah, he looks fine. I can kind of see Shelob - she makes all the CIrith Ungol orcs watch out for themselves!

[5]Shagrat, Captain of the Dark Tower [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 6
Damage +1.
Shadow: Exert Shagrat and spot 3 possessions or 2 artifacts to make each [Sauron] Uruk-hai fierce until the regroup phase.
"‘Now, now. I have my orders. And it's more than my belly's worth, or yours, to break ‘em.'"
Yeah, definitely twice for Uruk-hai.

[2]That's Mine! [Sauron]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 2 [Sauron] Uruk-hai (or Shagrat).
Each time a Free Peoples possession (except a mount) is played, add [1].
Shadow: Discard a [Wraith] Orc and spot X possessions to make a [Sauron] Uruk-hai strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘It was Gorbag started it, trying to pinch that pretty shirt.'"
Probably fine. I think I'd probably use it even without the second ability.

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May 22, 2008, 10:21:25 AM
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Well, I promised something completely different today, and I like to keep my promises. So here's some NON-[Gollum] stuff. Enjoy!
like when you promised to give us cards on all your threads...and they went inactive for months ;)

[5]Shagrat, Keeper of the High Pass [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 5
Damage +1. Hunter 1.
While you can spot Shelob or 2 other [Sauron] Uruk-hai, Shagrat is strength +1 and fierce.
"‘I'm in command of this pass. So speak civil.'"
snazzy

[5]Shagrat, Captain of the Dark Tower [Sauron]
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 13
Vitality: 3
Site: 6
Damage +1.
Shadow: Exert Shagrat twice and spot 3 possessions or 2 artifacts to make each [Sauron] Uruk-hai fierce until the regroup phase.
"‘Now, now. I have my orders. And it's more than my belly's worth, or yours, to break ‘em.'"
maybe a maneuver ability? or skirmish so its a bit more of a challenge?

[2]That's Mine! [Sauron]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 2 [Sauron] Uruk-hai (or Shagrat).
Each time a Free Peoples possession (except a mount) is played, add [1].
Shadow: Discard a [Wraith] Orc and spot X possessions to make a [Sauron] Uruk-hai strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘It was Gorbag started it, trying to pinch that pretty shirt.'"
I think its great! though as thran said, the second ability is really just icing on the cake...but I really like icing  :clown:
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May 22, 2008, 10:35:15 AM
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Well, I think three reviews is enough. If anyone else wants to review Shagrat, be my guest. ;D But I'm going to go ahead and get to his "partner" now. Enjoy!

[5]Gorbag, Cautious Captain [Wraith]
Minion • Orc
Strength: 11
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot a [Sauron] Uruk-hai or 2 other [Wraith] minions, Gorbag is strength +2 and fierce.
"‘Something nearly slipped you say. I say, something has slipped. And we've got to look out. Always the poor Uruks to put slips right, and small thanks.'"

[5]Gorbag, Lieutenant of the Dark Tower [Wraith]
Minion • Orc
Strength: 11
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Skirmish: Exert Gorbag twice to make a [Wraith] minion strength +1 for each possession borne by a companion skirmishing that minion (and damage +1 if that companion bears an artifact).
"‘You're supposed to keep watch, aren't you, special orders or no? What are you for?'"

[2]Going To The Great Eye [Wraith]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot two [Wraith] Orcs (or Gorbag).
Each time a Free Peoples artifact is played, add a threat.
Shadow: Discard a [Sauron] Uruk-hai and spot X possessions to make a [Wraith] Orc strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘...along with everything else. You touch it, and I'll stick this blade in your gut.'"
Best regards,
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May 22, 2008, 10:59:17 AM
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Re: Dáin's DCs - Mordor's Borders (5/22: Conflicting Captains)
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2008, 10:59:17 AM »
Well, I think three reviews is enough. If anyone else wants to review Shagrat, be my guest. ;D But I'm going to go ahead and get to his "partner" now. Enjoy!

[5]Gorbag, Cautious Captain [Wraith]
Minion • Orc
Strength: 11
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot a [Sauron] Uruk-hai or 2 other [Wraith] minions, Gorbag is strength +2 and fierce.
"‘Something nearly slipped you say. I say, something has slipped. And we've got to look out. Always the poor Uruks to put slips right, and small thanks.'"
nice up hunter to 2 IMSO

[5]Gorbag, Lieutenant of the Dark Tower [Wraith]
Minion • Orc
Strength: 11
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Skirmish: Exert Gorbag twice to make a [Wraith] minion strength +1 for each possession borne by a companion skirmishing that minion (and damage +1 if that companion bears an artifact).
"‘You're supposed to keep watch, aren't you, special orders or no? What are you for?'"
fine
[2]Going To The Great Eye [Wraith]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot two [Wraith] Orcs (or Gorbag).
Each time a Free Peoples artifact is played, add a threat.
Shadow: Discard a [Sauron] Uruk-hai and spot X possessions to make a [Wraith] Orc strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘...along with everything else. You touch it, and I'll stick this blade in your gut.'"
fine
Felipe Musco:
(after all, it's a CHARITY organization, I still have SOME principles, even having gone through Law School... :P),
Elf Lvr:
Bit of a scrawny Iowan kid with an unhealthy artifact obsession. Oh, and a God of Spam. In a good way.
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May 22, 2008, 04:43:40 PM
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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2008, 04:43:40 PM »
[5]Gorbag, Cautious Captain [Wraith]
Minion • Orc
Strength: 11
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot a [Sauron] Uruk-hai or 2 other [Wraith] minions, Gorbag is strength +2 and fierce.
"‘Something nearly slipped you say. I say, something has slipped. And we've got to look out. Always the poor Uruks to put slips right, and small thanks.'"
Seems fine.

[5]Gorbag, Lieutenant of the Dark Tower [Wraith]
Minion • Orc
Strength: 11
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Skirmish: Exert Gorbag twice to make a [Wraith] minion strength +1 for each possession borne by a companion skirmishing that minion (and damage +1 if that companion bears an artifact).
"‘You're supposed to keep watch, aren't you, special orders or no? What are you for?'"
Not sure it's worth 2 exertions, but alright. I think I'd make it 1 and then maybe remove the parentheses.

[2]Going To The Great Eye [Wraith]
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot two [Wraith] Orcs (or Gorbag).
Each time a Free Peoples artifact is played, add a threat.
Shadow: Discard a [Sauron] Uruk-hai and spot X possessions to make a [Wraith] Orc strength +X until the regroup phase (limit +4).
"‘...along with everything else. You touch it, and I'll stick this blade in your gut.'"
My point is repeated for That's Mine! above. Good synergy though.

Thranduil