the new president

[Gil-Estel]

And his plans for actually sticking to the Millinium Plan, to reduce hunger, illeterates and so on in the world, his plan to actually do something about environmental issues, maybe it is irrational, but it is another sound, and an important one.
Please, don't compare him with Hitler, for 1, following Hitler wasn't irrational at all, please get in to the stuff before judging. Germany in those days hit rock-bottom and were willing to follow anyone who would take them back on top after the humiliation of the Versailles Treaty. He made it work, was making a diiference and helped Germany back on their feet. The greatest difference is the point of exit. Where are we heading for, and those points are extremely different.
Bush protected you from terrorists? At what price? Privacy isn't what it once was. And this is not judgement, this is a sincere wondering? Was there a constant threat or was the constant code red/orange a true one, or was it made up, to back up his plans? Again, sincere wondering.
Israel, well, with great strength comes great responsibility. If I, as a teacher decide to beat up a pupil because he was calling me names and gave my car flat tires, would everyone say: well, he had it coming, he shouldn't be so annoying? No, and I'm aware of the difficulties in the Middle East, but Israel must be aware of their responsibility. Hitting UN aid and stating it to be an accident is not to be taken lightly.

[Olorin]

So keeping the USA safe is being a bad president?

Oh so it's okay to keep the USA safe by starting and promoting wars all across the world leading to the deaths of thousands of innocent people and maybe a handful of terrorists that will simply get martyred and replaced by willing recruits united in their hatred of America? You can't fight terrorists with war, it doesn't work! "War on Terror" is a meaningless statement because terrorists don't fight wars. Military tactics simply don't hold water against people who won't fight you openhanded. Okay, I suppose his approach had to be tried, but I think it's getting proved time and time again that it's the wrong approach. Surely it's time for something else, isn't it?

I agree Thranduil's opinion to 100 %.

[Olorin]

And his plans for actually sticking to the Millinium Plan, to reduce hunger, illeterates and so on in the world, his plan to actually do something about environmental issues, maybe it is irrational, but it is another sound, and an important one.
Please, don't compare him with Hitler, for 1, following Hitler wasn't irrational at all, please get in to the stuff before judging. Germany in those days hit rock-bottom and were willing to follow anyone who would take them back on top after the humiliation of the Versailles Treaty. He made it work, was making a diiference and helped Germany back on their feet. The greatest difference is the point of exit. Where are we heading for, and those points are extremely different.
Bush protected you from terrorists? At what price? Privacy isn't what it once was. And this is not judgement, this is a sincere wondering? Was there a constant threat or was the constant code red/orange a true one, or was it made up, to back up his plans? Again, sincere wondering.
Israel, well, with great strength comes great responsibility. If I, as a teacher decide to beat up a pupil because he was calling me names and gave my car flat tires, would everyone say: well, he had it coming, he shouldn't be so annoying? No, and I'm aware of the difficulties in the Middle East, but Israel must be aware of their responsibility. Hitting UN aid and stating it to be an accident is not to be taken lightly.

I aggree Gil-Estel's opinion to 100 %.

Please do not forget that privacy is a high good what should also be protected.
and about Hitler... Gil-Estel is also right; but I also know, he was a big evil and a serious threat to the world. I am just wondering why Hitler is always the WORST guy? there were also other guys like Stalin or Mao - they are responsible for even more death in the world than hilter...

You should also consider that the thinking about the USA in the whole world got worse after Bush became president... before, Clinton was president... there was a good atmosphere between the USA and Russia... and also to the states of Arabia... there was less tension... the USA and Europe used to have a good relationship - but this didn't hold on for a long time after Bush came president... and now? Russia is about to forget buildung the new military bases... Europe also hopes and is confident concerning Obama to make a change the the American politics... and Obama also thinks about the environment...
You should know that the USA pollutes the world more than each other country... even if China is about to take the leadership...
The USA has got 5 percent of the worldwide human population... but causes a pollution of about 25 %
It is really necessary to think als about the environment... to produce new cars... WITHOUT oil or petrol... do it like the germans... bulid cars with hydrogen! Or at least cars with 3-4 litres per 100 kilometres.
I only say: Obama, you are right! Change we need!

[Anonymous Prodigy]

It'd be great if he could fix the economy, and if he does, then kudos to him. Stuff like this is something we need to be working on. Now, I don't agree with the global warming stuff, but we do need to become less dependent (if not completely independent) on foreign oil.

On the other hand, this is one of the reasons why the Right of this forum (including myself) have a problem with Obama. We believe that abortion is morally (and more importantly, Biblically) wrong.

But I'm interested to see what he does. If he does a fraction of what he says he will, then we're sitting pretty and congratulations to the Dems. If he doesn't, then the economy will be deemed beyond rescue because of the horrible job of the Bush administration and we'll still be in the crapper economically.

[Gil-Estel]

Yeah, but when you live in a democracy you have to take the bitter along with the sweet. I again sincerely wonder the personal motivation of Obama when it comes to abortion, because I personally think that being a christian -and he seems to be one- and being in favor of abortion is something that is least to say weird. But than again, being the leader of the pack, it doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants. He is like Boromir: if this is the will of the US people, Obama will see it done. And we all know Boromir didn't agree.

[Olorin]

Yeah, of course, everyone has got his own opinion... and I really don't want to persuade/convince or offend anyone here... or something like that...
I just want to mention that the "global warming stuff" exists, is real and it is a process which is not to stop anymore - even if we stop all co2 emmissions immediately...
we need only to compare the climate here in Europe... the last 5-10 years... yeah... years... not centurys... it's really shocking and crazy what's going on due to pollution, etc. which is definitely caused by men
and even if there were not global warming - what is according to my oppinion nonsense (really don't want to offend anyone) - we must do something to decrease the need of oil (3 litres are better than 20, right? zero is better than only a little bit, right?) - because those are ressources with a limit, causes pollution and you are dependant on others...
We have to care about our responsability for the next generations - what will they find? no polar caps, no forests... - just environmental figures... this is also a chance to invest into science to invent something new... which is also good because there is a potential for further jobs... etc.
and yeah... it might be to early to see results from Obama's work... but give him a chance and we'll see... but I am confident it can't getting worse than Bush's administration...

[Anonymous Prodigy]

Um.... yeah. Global warming is #$&*@!. I don't deny that pollution is a problem, but global warming isn't a problem; namely, because it doesn't exist. Here we're getting record lows and ice storms, and everybody is still screaming global warming. It is a farce. I mean, seriously, when Al Gore is at the head of something, you know something's not right already.

But as I said before, I'll be glad to see what Obama can get done. He has a pretty tall order to fill, since the media already has him walking on water. But we'll see what happens.

[King89]

@AP:

although this is goining straight to of-topic: saying clobal warming does not happen is equal the same if you would deny the holocaust! so how can you deny a proved global problem? 

[FM]

Um.... yeah. Global warming is #$&*@!. I don't deny that pollution is a problem, but global warming isn't a problem; namely, because it doesn't exist. Here we're getting record lows and ice storms, and everybody is still screaming global warming. It is a farce. I mean, seriously, when Al Gore is at the head of something, you know something's not right already.

But as I said before, I'll be glad to see what Obama can get done. He has a pretty tall order to fill, since the media already has him walking on water. But we'll see what happens.

You DO know that Global Warming doesn't simply translates into "temperature rising" , right? You were making a joke? I hope so...

[Gil-Estel]

Well, I know that Gore isn't someone I would trust my life to, but he's not the only one. The degree of CO2 and the rising heat on earth have a certain relation and scientists wonder whether CO2 influences the temperature or whether it is the other way around. Global warming isn't only an Al Gore theme, though he is the one that is the most prominent spokesman of it. I have read that in Great Brittain his movie isn't allowed to be shown on schools for it includes at least 9 scientific errors. Nonetheless it is an issue, because the signs are quite obvious. Whether it is Global Warming or not, we have to care about the evironment, because we depend on the world we live in.
But I'm so glad that Obama is willing to open debate about it. I mean, again, even if you think the whole Global Warming thing is rubbish, you would have to agree that taking care is always good.

[turin08]

Um.... yeah. Global warming is #$&*@!. I don't deny that pollution is a problem, but global warming isn't a problem; namely, because it doesn't exist. Here we're getting record lows and ice storms, and everybody is still screaming global warming. It is a farce. I mean, seriously, when Al Gore is at the head of something, you know something's not right already.

 

Oh my goodness are you being serious? Cos I'm sorry but the scientific evidence for Global Warming is overwhelming. This isn't like evolution were its still pretty much a theory (despite what some scientists might claim). Global Warming is fact. 

[sickofpalantirs]

I guess my question than is, how does global warming cause more snow and record low temperatures?

[Olorin]

I guess my question than is, how does global warming cause more snow and record low temperatures?

This, I don't know. Perhaps the global warming is not affecting the region as strong as elswhere at the moment; the Poles are definitely affected very hard by this process.
But I know, that the glaciers in the Alps start to die off the next ~ 15 years - imagine: Alps without glaciers?!
But I know, that especially the shrinkage of the polar caps in the Arctis and Antarctis is very, very fast.
But I know, that the sea level is rising dramatically that most regions at the coasts and bays will be flooded (due to the ice-melt of the polar caps); the Inhabitants of the Maledives have to look for a new home because their islands won't exist in the next few years

...and I didn't really know that the global warming is still a question in the US and not - as everywhere else in the world - a fact.
Ice bears loose the ground under their feets (ice melt)
Brown bears "forget" to eat more for their hibernation/winter sleep because it is to warm - then it's getting cold and they die.

And you should also know: while the polar caps are shrinking rapidly - the white surface can not reflect as much sun rays, heat as they can now or as they could in the past - so the global warming will get faster and faster... it's a vicious circle
...and we in Austria don't have in summer as usual 28° degrees celsius as normal in summer, but nearly 40° degrees... (this is normal for Africa but not for central Europe)
...and we don't have -20° degrees as we had in the winters a few years ago... but sometimes +15° degrees celsius...

Please guys, open your eyes - Global Warming is a fact!

Sorry gus for this long statement - but I am just that surprised that this is still a matter in question or a matter of "this does not exist".

[Olorin]

sorry again for posting something which obviously does not belong to this topic.

[turin08]

A common misconception about Global Warming is that it is reffering to air temperature. It is not. Air Temperatures have increased slightly but in the majority Global Warming effects earth and water temperatures which have risen steadily over the last 50 years. The increase in snow fall in some parts of the world and rainfall in others is because the increase in earth and water temperatures is leading to an increase in precipitation. Quite simply there is more water evaporating leading to more water vapour in the air, leading to denser, heavier clouds and therefore more regular rainfall and snowfall.  

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