The Old Took's DCs-- Dwarven!

[Gerontius]

ºDeagol, Friend of Smeagol
Companion.
Strength 3.
Vitality 4.
Resistance 8.
Ring-bearer.
At the start of the turn, if you can not spot Smeagol, wound Deagol 3 times.
Regroup: If Deagol bears the One Ring, exert him to play the Fellowship's next site. If it is a river, draw a card.
While Smeagol is more than twice as strong as Deagol, Smeagol is Resistance -3.
"'He had a friend called Deagol, of similar sort, sharper eyed but not so quick and strong...'"


ºSmeagol, Friend of Deagol
Companion
Strength 3
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
Ringbound.
To play, spot Deagol.
While Deagol is in your Fellowship and the Fellowship
is at a river, Smeagol is strength +4.
If Smeagol has 0 resistance, any Shadow player may choose to discard him and place Deagol in the dead pile.
"'The most inquisitive and curious-minded of that family was called Smeagol.."'

I'm having trouble deciding Smeagol's resistance, whether or not he should be a Hobbit, and other things. Tell me what you think!

Edit: See the second page of this topic, which is where the DC set itself begins.

[chompers]

Cool idea - but can Deagol become the RingBearer when you spot Smeagol. Dont you have to play Ring-Bearer and Ring first then starting fellowship?

[Vroengard]

yes, first the ring-bearer

[Thranduil]

This is an interesting dynamic between the two of them, but as people have said the Ring-bearer is placed before any companions are played. And I'm not sure of a way round that... Something like "If you cannot spot Sméagol at the start of the fellowship phase, you lose the game" but I'm not sure about that flavour... It might work...

Thranduil

[sickofpalantirs]

strange stuff, but yeah, unfortunately it doesn't work. with deagol though you could have, spot smeagol to transfer the ring to him, he is ringbearer or something

(btw I jammed a finger in b-ball and its taped, so excuse my spelling errors)

[Gerontius]

I see your point about the ring bearer effect. I'm worried that the entire idea might be too crazy to work, but I'll see what changes I can make.
Thanks for the reviews!

[GloinTheDark]

How about making a Deagol ring-bearer that you can voluntarily kill if you spot Smeagol.  Then the ring could go to that Smeagol.  Just an Idea.

[Gerontius]

I fixed the Ring-Bearer problem. Now it should be pretty hard to use Deagol without Smeagol.

[Gerontius]

How about making a Deagol ring-bearer that you can voluntarily kill if you spot Smeagol.  Then the ring could go to that Smeagol.  Just an Idea.

I like the idea, but I think this Smeagol is too strong to be a Ring-Bearer.

[Gerontius]

Anyway, I have a few more ideas for cards.


ºAncient Battle Axe, Powerful Weapon
Possession-Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is Damage +1
At the start of the maneuver phase, if bearer is Damage +2,you may make bearer lose all damage bonuses until the regroup phase to wound a minion.
"'We have done well,' he said. 'But in metal-work we cannot rival our fathers, many of whose secrets are lost.'

ºGloin, Father of Gimli
Companion-Dwarf
Strength-5
Vit-3
Res-7
While you can spot Bilbo and a tale, Gloin is strength +3.
While you can spot Gimli, Gloin is Damage +1.
'Gloin sighed. "Moria! Moria! Wonder of the Northern World! To deep we delved there..."'

ºSam, Enraged Gardener
Companion-Hobbit
Strength-3
Vit-4
Res-8
Ring-Bound.
Response: If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam twice and add a burden to make Sam Enduring and Damage +1.
Skirmish: If Sam is not assigned to a skirmish, you may exert him and add a burden to have him replace Frodo in that skirmish.

ºGandalf, Impatient Wizard
Companion-Wizard
Str-7
Vit-4
Res-7
Each time a Free-Peoples card adds or more, you may make Gandalf gain defender +1 until the regroup phase.
"'Fool of a Took!'"

EDIT: I added a few more cards and adjusted some of the others.

Thanks for your ideas!

[Thranduil]

ºAncient Battle Axe, Powerful Weapon
Possession-Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is Damage +1
At the start of the maneuver phase, you may make bearer Damage -2 until the regroup phase to wound a minion.
"'We have done well,' he said. 'But in metal-work we cannot rival our fathers, many of whose secrets are lost.'

You need a clause somewhere that says "If bearer is damage +2, make him..." but otherwise, this is very interesting.

ºGloin, Father of Gimli
Companion-Dwarf
Strength-5
Vit-3
Res-8
While you can spot Bilbo and 2 tales, Gloin is strength +3.
While you can spot Gimli and 2 possessions, Gloin is Damage +1.
'Gloin sighed. "Moria! Moria! Wonder of the Northern World! To deep we delved there..."'

I think those boosts are too conditional. I would go either for 2 tales/2 possessions, or Bilbo/Gimli.

ºSam, Enraged Gardener
Companion-Hobbit
Strength-3
Vit-4
Res-8
Ring-Bound.
Response: If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam twice and add a burden to make Sam Enduring and Damage +1. Then, if Sam is not assigned to a skirmish, you may exert him and add 2 burdens to have him replace Frodo in that skirmish (Limit once per turn).

Whoa that's crazy! :hey: I think it's confusing to have 2 separate abilities here under the same heading with similar costs. I think I'd have one skirmish special ability "ESam twice to make him enduring and damage +1." and then a second response ability something like: "If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam and add 2 burdens have him replace Frodo in that skirmish." Or something like that. Cool ideas though.

ºGandalf, Impatient Wizard
Companion-Wizard
Str-7
Vit-4
Res-7
Each time a Free-Peoples card adds or more, you may exert Gandalf to make him gain defender +1 until the regroup phase.
"'Fool of a Took!'"

It's a bit of a weird ability and seems like it could be more powerful, but it's interesting.

Thranduil

[Gerontius]

ºSam, Enraged Gardener
Companion-Hobbit
Strength-3
Vit-4
Res-8
Ring-Bound.
Response: If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam twice and add a burden to make Sam Enduring and Damage +1. Then, if Sam is not assigned to a skirmish, you may exert him and add 2 burdens to have him replace Frodo in that skirmish (Limit once per turn).

Whoa that's crazy! :hey: I think it's confusing to have 2 separate abilities here under the same heading with similar costs. I think I'd have one skirmish special ability "ESam twice to make him enduring and damage +1." and then a second response ability something like: "If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam and add 2 burdens have him replace Frodo in that skirmish." Or something like that. Cool ideas though.
Thranduil

I see your point, but I kind of wanted to keep it so that you couldn't use the second effect unless you use the first one... Can you think of another less confusing way to do that?
Thanks for the review! I'm going to make a few changes.

[sickofpalantirs]

Anyway, I have a few more ideas for cards.


ºAncient Battle Axe, Powerful Weapon
Possession-Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is Damage +1
At the start of the maneuver phase, if bearer is Damage +2,you may make bearer lose damage bonuses until the regroup phase to wound a minion.
"'We have done well,' he said. 'But in metal-work we cannot rival our fathers, many of whose secrets are lost.'
lose all damage bonuses and be unable to gain damage bonuses is the wording you are looking for methinks.

ºGloin, Father of Gimli
Companion-Dwarf
Strength-5
Vit-3
Res-8
While you can spot Bilbo and a tale, Gloin is strength +3.
While you can spot Gimli, Gloin is Damage +1.
'Gloin sighed. "Moria! Moria! Wonder of the Northern World! To deep we delved there..."'
fine

ºSam, Enraged Gardener
Companion-Hobbit
Strength-3
Vit-4
Res-8
Ring-Bound.
Response: If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam twice and add a burden to make Sam Enduring and Damage +1. Then, if Sam is not assigned to a skirmish, you may exert him and add 2 burdens to have him replace Frodo in that skirmish (Limit once per turn).
I think it'd be fine if you could use the abilities separately... 

ºGandalf, Impatient Wizard
Companion-Wizard
Str-7
Vit-4
Res-7
Each time a Free-Peoples card adds or more, you may make Gandalf gain defender +1 until the regroup phase.
"'Fool of a Took!'"

He should cost 4.

[Gerontius]

Thanks. Any more reviews, or should I move on to the next group of DCs?

[lem0nhead]

Ill review if you want!

ºAncient Battle Axe, Powerful Weapon
Possession-Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is Damage +1
At the start of the maneuver phase, if bearer is Damage +2,you may make bearer lose all damage bonuses until the regroup phase to wound a minion.
"'We have done well,' he said. 'But in metal-work we cannot rival our fathers, many of whose secrets are lost.'

Interestingly novel! Quite like it actually though 'damage' doesnt need a capital.

ºGloin, Father of Gimli
Companion-Dwarf
Strength-5
Vit-3
Res-8
While you can spot Bilbo and a tale, Gloin is strength +3.
While you can spot Gimli, Gloin is Damage +1.
'Gloin sighed. "Moria! Moria! Wonder of the Northern World! To deep we delved there..."'

8 is a bit high res to give a comp except gandy or gorn. other than that, cool!

ºSam, Enraged Gardener
Companion-Hobbit
Strength-3
Vit-4
Res-8
Ring-Bound.
Response: If Frodo is about to take a wound in a skirmish, exert Sam twice and add a burden to make Sam Enduring and Damage +1. Then, if Sam is not assigned to a skirmish, you may exert him and add 2 burdens to have him replace Frodo in that skirmish (Limit once per turn).

lol nice title. Holy crap thats a complicated Sam. Plus to prevent frodo from taking a wound you essentialy exhaust sam and add 3 burdens? Way too costly my friend. Would never use it.

ºGandalf, Impatient Wizard
Companion-Wizard
Str-7
Vit-4
Res-7
Each time a Free-Peoples card adds or more, you may make Gandalf gain defender +1 until the regroup phase.
"'Fool of a Took!'"

I like the idea of triggering when you pay costly cards but making him defender from it seems weird.