Oil....

[DáinIronfoot]

Not really. I missed her too.

[Gil-Estel]

Shieldmaiden, my heart takes a leap just seeing your name here again!!

holy crap!!! what a freak.

There are people that think I'm cool....watch the topic

[TheJord]

We could be almost self sufficient on oil, but the duty on fuel in the UK is outrageous. Two of the largest oil producers, BP and Shell, are British companies and we still get the shaft!

[SomeRandomDude]

lem0n, it was a joke. lol?

Actually, we have some cars like the Ford Focus that can get 35-40 mpg, but we have to go foreign to get better mpg than that, like VW. 50 mpg diesel.

Here in KS, we had some FFVs running ethanol. Ethanol came from just across the state line, amd was government subsidized, so it was cheap, but it was an alcohol and thus cleaned out your gas tank and dumped the sludge into your engine, so the specialization necessary to make it work made it quite unpopular.

[MR. Lurtzy]

ethanol from corn was a terrible idea.

[SomeRandomDude]

It would have worked had there been vehicles ready to use it. But there weren't.

[Gil-Estel]

We could be almost self sufficient on oil, but the duty on fuel in the UK is outrageous. Two of the largest oil producers, BP and Shell, are British companies and we still get the shaft!

Shell is part Dutch....but they do not make us proud.....

[DáinIronfoot]

I don't know the details, but I hear they've found a way to squeeze usable oil out of some type of seaweed or algae. Let's hope it goes somewhere...and that the oil companies don't try to shoot it down.

[AgentDrake]

Doesn't Brazil use sugarcane for their ethanol? I understand that the stuff works a ton better than corn. As it is, the corn ethanol is wreaking havoc with the food market, and the Mexicans aren't too happy that we're driving up the price of corn....

Oh, well. Maybe I can get a raise out of it (I work for a hybrid crops company in the corn hybrids...)

[SomeRandomDude]

Funny, we ran this CP about corn ethanol and illegal immigration.

Ethanol is wrecking Mexico's economy! That leaves all of Mexico's economy reliant on remittances! If we crack down on illegal immigration, we cause people to starve to death in Mexico, which forces them to illegally immigrate to the US! And we simultaneously wreck our economy! So any strategy for getting rid of illegal immigrants actually increases illegal immigration.

The solution: Cut corn subsidies, use money to provide foreign aid to Mexico.

Sorry, just got done debating Illegal Immigration this year in NCFCA.

[Kralik]

ethanol from corn was a terrible idea.

Old topic, but I just got around to reading it. Check out this article from Time on corn ethanol. Very informative.

Myself? I drive a 1994 Geo Metro that I got for less than $1,000 last summer that gets a minimum of 50mpg. My average is around 55mpg or so and my best tank was 62mpg. Of course, they are scarce in the US now... very high in demand. How is it that the EPA rating on an old Geo beats hybrids like the Prius? Or the "new, amazing" Smart cars?

The vehicle is designed to achieve 40 city/45 highway mpg according to 2007 EPA standards and 33 city/41 highway mpg according to 2008 EPA standards.

EDIT: I should note that the European Smart cars fare much better than their emissions-controlled American counterparts.

[SomeRandomDude]

I wanna mo-ped.

[MR. Lurtzy]

I want a mop head.

[SomeRandomDude]

You already have one.

[MR. Lurtzy]