New Players comittee

[Smeagollum]

Hi People,

I mailed Fishfleas to ask him about the status of the new to form PC. Unfortunately it seems that he steps out of buidling up a pc. here's his mail:

Hey man,

feel free to repost this on the forum if you like.  I've recently been asked to possibly take a step up in my involvement with the SW PC.  I would love to see the LOTR TCG take some shape, but ultimately the interest I had seems to wane back and forth.  SOmetimes it's hot, sometimes it's cold.  Ultimately I need to have consistant input and help in making it work.  Could I still head this up? Yes I could, but I'ld only now be able to say i could guide it from a top level position. I wouldn't be able to do as much grunt work, as I initially thought I would. I still have my ideas on how to address the issues in the game. I think there is alot of merit in my plan of action.  If people would like to see what I had in mind, then that is great. It was definately going to take a shift in thinking, as the only way to get the old players back, is to give them something they WANT to play with.  That means the newer stuff is important to consider, but ultimately you've got to target getting the old players back.  They are the ones that will bring success to the PC, as they have the cards.

So that all being said.  I may be getting a new job that will give me more time to work on things, but I'm not sure yet if I'll get that.   So unless I find out otherwise, I'm going to have to step out of the spotlight on this project.  At least as a major player. I'm more than willing to give input and discuss ideas with people on messenger.  I won't however have time to discuss much on the forums. 

Sorry for that news, and if things change, I will let you all know.   However for now, this is how it will have to be.

So I'm afraid where back to the beginning and that's why I like to ask your permission to pick this up. I've got some ideas, but I also would need your ideas. I would like to have Olorin (as creator of the austrian format), Thranduil (creative), SOP (moderator) and TheJord involved. I hope they would like this as well as I hope you will all. And maybe others would like to attend as well (Dain Ironfoot, Battlewarg?)

What I don't want to do is to contact Decipher for their permission. I contacted them once and I'm still waiting for their reply. And hearing other experiences on that I don't think Decipher will border to contact us. First important thing I think is to form a committee. Secondly to form a plan with targets like a new Ruling document (to repair some problems that are playing now with the objective to not ban any cards), a tourneycircuit, devoloping new cards, etc.
If whe have a plan on paper we still can contact Decipher, Tolkiens heirs or who- or whatever.

So please let me hear within a week what you all think. Please don't pm me, but add your opinion to this topic.

Kind regards,

Jw

The idea so far (thx for the input Jerba)

Red = Temporary
Blue = Will be asked within 3 weeks
Green = Asked and confirmed
Brown = Asked and pending on anwser

The Returned High King of Gondor:  Should be elected
The Steward of Gondor: Smeagollum

Tournament Advocate (In charge of Tourneys and ratings system):
Online Play Coordinator  (Works with tournament coordinator, or this could be part of Tourny advocates job, to organize online tournaments and ratings):

Rules Wizard, Giver of Council (In charge of rules questions and leader of any councils called to resolve serious rules questions: erratas, bans, restrictions, etc. Develops CRD etc. Works with the tournament directors on rules questions): HawkeyeSPF

Players Advocate (keeps the pulse of the players community. The official go-between from the PC to the players. Reveals the spoilers, runs polls, contests, etc): Dain Ironfoot

International Coordinator (Works with Tourney and Players Advocates to maintain and coordinate all events and reach out to all players' groups): Gil-Estel

Representative Moderaters team:


Behind the scenes teams and committees:
Graphic design team (Designs the templates and finishes the V-cards, errata slips, creates the pdf documents for the CRD, rules, etc.): Henk Maul, Kralik

Design Team (Designs V-Card sets and themes. Hopefully 3 sets a year):
 Smeagollum (if you want have me  , Tranduil, Foresight, Battlewarg,

Playtesting Team (Works with the design team to playtest V-Sets before they are released. Can be done in playgroups or via SdA, gccg, lackey, etc.):

Format Committees (Every member will have 2 formats for which he will be co-responsable, to insure that cards are refreshing each format and that the formats are balanced), Responsable for errata's or other changes on cards: HawkeyeSPF, Olorin, Elrohir, Disco Stu, Jerba, King89Elessar's Socks,

Moderators team: sickofpalantirs, NBarden, AgentDrake, lem0nhead,  TheJord, bibfortuna25,  NBarden, Elf_Lvr, Thranduil, Elessar's Socks,


People asked if they want to be involved and how: MR. Lurtzy, ,

And uh...: I need the French, The Polish, The Spanish, Australians, Brazillians, Americans to be involved as well. Please let me know if you're from one of these nationalities and would like to be involved!!!!!!

[sickofpalantirs]

I know ES is working on a rough draft of a CRD

[DáinIronfoot]

Yeah, we're working on setting up something more "official" here at TLHH. Just give Kralik and the mods a little while longer....

[Smeagollum]

I know ES is working on a rough draft of a CRD

Who's ES?

[Elessar's Socks]

Someone who likes ramen and cake!!

I've been taking note of rulings that might need clarification (mostly based on threads here), although it'd be great if there was actually a way to come to an agreement on these things.

[Smeagollum]

Someone who likes ramen and cake!!

I've been taking note of rulings that might need clarification (mostly based on threads here), although it'd be great if there was actually a way to come to an agreement on these things.

I totally agree. Maybe it's an idea to pick a day and time to discuss things on the chat (where we can all login. Then we could deside about how to go further on). Only problem with that is that communicating by mail & chat can be dangerous as you can't see what somebody exactly means (I already noticed that myself...I'm very blunt in my statements..). So it should be followed up by comming together during a meeting after a tournament.

Question: Were you an official judge? Because if not it might be wise to bring in some official judges?

[Olorin]

I'd highly recommend to get HawkeyeSPF into the boat. - and yeah... ES is also very fine! perhaps also Leokula... if he had time left... and I would also vote for Disco Stu.

[Elessar's Socks]

Question: Were you an official judge? Because if not it might be wise to bring in some official judges?

No, I'm not. If Bib or Merrick were around maybe these could simply be forwarded to them. Otherwise I was thinking once we have an appropriate forum for this (or hijack the Archives), the community could figure things out. Might not be the best way to go about it, but it'd be the closest to legitimacy I can think of. It'd still fall under TLHH house rules, though.

[Smeagollum]

Do we know referees who are still active? I know one, but sometimes I feel embarrashed when I say something here, because he explained me something and then after debating here it shows that he was wrong. So I m not sure if he would be an option. Besides that he's very lazy and I'm still waiting for a tournamentreport he would make.

Pls inform me more about Disco Stu and Hawkeye. I only know Disco from the Amsterdam tournament.

[Jerba]

Big surprise. Yet again, we are shown that the game is going nowhere. 

I am heartened by two thing here, A) The realization that Decipher is useless and has no interest in us; lets get a move on. We're the game, if it will be saved and continued it is up to us. Finally. 
B) That TLHH is doing something. I hope it works out.

I offer my help in anyway its needed. I realize I'm not that up to date, but as fishfleas pointed out in the "Farewell Address" I'm exactly the kind of player we need to get back into the game: Those that stopped playing around ROTK or War of the Ring block. We don't have much of the new stuff, but still love the game. I'll do what I can to help.

 

[SomeRandomDude]

Someone who likes ramen and cake!!

I've been taking note of rulings that might need clarification (mostly based on threads here), although it'd be great if there was actually a way to come to an agreement on these things.

I totally agree. Maybe it's an idea to pick a day and time to discuss things on the chat (where we can all login. Then we could deside about how to go further on). Only problem with that is that communicating by mail & chat can be dangerous as you can't see what somebody exactly means (I already noticed that myself...I'm very blunt in my statements..). So it should be followed up by comming together during a meeting after a tournament.

Question: Were you an official judge? Because if not it might be wise to bring in some official judges?

I think what's happening here is that TLHH is doing its own thing and not intending to take over officially. More like a house format. But we have arguably the largest LotR TCG playing community that we could get some momentum behind us and possibly get the rules adopted universally.

[Gil-Estel]

But why not develop something, make it pretty official and make it the players commitee. We have active players indeed, but let's debate what should be the main goal of a PC, what should be in a PC and start by being an authority in 'our' community. Allthough it is hard to realise that, because we are all a stubborn bunch of people...haha.

[Jerba]

I think a House Committee dedicated to our group will be perfect. Lets get our "House" in order and then worry about everyone else first. We need a banner to get behind first, and since we're all here on TLHH and the Mods have the most credibility I would support a "House Format"

When can we expect details or "release" date?

[Olorin]

I'd highly recommend to get HawkeyeSPF into the boat. - and yeah... ES is also very fine! perhaps also Leokula... if he had time left... and I would also vote for Disco Stu.

Not only for me but for the whole game it is important to get the right guys for this job. If a guy has a lot of posts or is a mod does not mean he is the right dude for the job. I recommended the guys above coz I know/believe that guys would do that job best. And the number of that "council" or "PC" must be few - otherwise we won't come to an end.

Another point: I am really very disappointed that a few "elven fanatics" started a public discussion here DURING introducing the Austrian Format. I would have apprecciated that everyone looks at the rules I set up, says "fine" and started building decks... so to get that format settled. - But NO: now we have a discussion about several cards - I mean, this discussion could have been held a few weeks later when everything was introduced to the people here... now something happened I tried to prevent: confusion. Now, where all polls have been held (e.g. on this board now Namarie is X-listed for sure too) I wish to get back and join that format as it was thought in the origins and don't try - while introducing - to discuss, change, etc. it. - LATER will be time for it.

Olorin - the wise Istari - has spoken - End!

[Gil-Estel]

Like Socrates I naturally distrust anyone that calls him self wise.....