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June 30, 2008, 09:53:53 AM
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Alright, I confess. I went full bore at the [Isengard] culture recently, getting lots of material ready to for my other current DC thread, and poor Gimli kind of got left in the dust. But I do have ONE new card ready for today, and it's a rather important and--for Dwarves, anyway--revolutionary one, giving the [Dwarven] culture something they currently lack. I probably won't do anything else like this, so this will probably be a very unique [Dwarven] card even within the confines of my DC sets, but...well, let me know what YOU think. That's why I post these, after all, rather than just hoarding them to myself. Well, that and the fact that never sharing them would be rather silly. Plus I'd maybe go insane if I just created all these and then didn't DO anything with them.

Ahem. Right, card. "Get to the point, Dwarf," I hear you scream. Alright. Here 'tis. Enjoy! :mrgreen:

[2] Breaking the Silence [Dwarven]
Event • Response
Toil 2.
If a Shadow condition or Shadow event is played, spot a Dwarf who has resistance 5 or more and add a threat to return that condition to its owner's hand.
"‘The words of this wizard stand on their heads. In the language of Orthanc help means ruin, and saving means slaying, that is plain. But we do not come here to beg.'"
« Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 09:01:16 AM by DáinIronfoot »
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June 30, 2008, 09:57:09 AM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarf (6/30: Dwarves Do NOT Beg)
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2008, 09:57:09 AM »
Needs to cost [3]!

June 30, 2008, 08:26:43 PM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarf (6/30: Dwarves Do NOT Beg)
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2008, 08:26:43 PM »
Could easily cost 0. Absurdly situational, most of the times it won't do you much good against events (except stuff like Red Wrath, which cost a lot), and it just "cancels" a condition (usually more expensive, so might work better) for a turn, sometimes not even a full one. Costing a card, an exertion of a probably value character AND a threat? More than enough. If it made it be discarded, however, then it'd be nice as it is.

July 01, 2008, 07:15:51 AM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarf (6/30: Dwarves Do NOT Beg)
« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2008, 07:15:51 AM »
Left the cost as is, but changed it from exerting to spotting and slapped on a toil 1. So now, it's a basically a rewrite of the other with the cost dropped to [1], though more flexible now. Good, or does it need further tweaking?
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July 01, 2008, 08:02:30 AM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarf (6/30: Dwarves Do NOT Beg)
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2008, 08:02:30 AM »
I still think twilight is not necessary. After all, what good is "bouncing" a condition back if you're giving them twilight to possibly just go and replay it? "Bounce" effects should have exertions, and such, in their costs, perhaps even discarding, but not twilight. I guess the toil fixes that, but then it gets TOO harsh, needing 2 exertions to cost 0...

July 01, 2008, 09:07:07 AM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarf (6/30: Dwarves Do NOT Beg)
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2008, 09:07:07 AM »
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I still think twilight is not necessary. After all, what good is "bouncing" a condition back if you're giving them twilight to possibly just go and replay it? "Bounce" effects should have exertions, and such, in their costs, perhaps even discarding, but not twilight. I guess the toil fixes that, but then it gets TOO harsh, needing 2 exertions to cost 0...

Alright, I'll change it to [1] cost. Good?

Back to good, old-fashioned skirmishing today. :twisted: Enjoy!

[2] Let Him Be [Dwarven]
Event • Skirmish
Exert a Dwarf (except the Ring-bearer) to make another companion (except the Ring-bearer) strength +X, where X is that Dwarf's resistance.
"‘Let him go, lad....'"

(0) Ai-oi! [Dwarven]
Event • Skirmish
Make a Dwarf strength +2 (or +4 if in a fierce skirmish).
"‘Twenty-one!' cried Gimli. He hewed a two-handed stroke and laid the last Orc before his feet."
« Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 09:02:06 AM by DáinIronfoot »
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July 01, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarves (7/1: What Dwarves do best: fight!)
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2008, 08:06:43 PM »
Both good enough, although I'd make the first one cost 0 as well, not THAT big of a pump without some serious tanking first anyway. But I guess 1 is fine.

July 01, 2008, 08:09:32 PM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarves (7/1: What Dwarves do best: fight!)
« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2008, 08:09:32 PM »
At first I changed Let Him Go as you suggested, FM, but then I had a thought and did something else entirely. How do you like it now? Too good? Should I cap it or raise the cost to [2]?
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July 02, 2008, 03:14:57 PM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarves (7/1: What Dwarves do best: fight!)
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2008, 03:14:57 PM »
Make the first one cost 2 now, seeing as it's easy to get a strength +6.

July 03, 2008, 10:48:07 AM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarves (7/1: What Dwarves do best: fight!)
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2008, 10:48:07 AM »
Yeah, it's better to raise the cost.

July 03, 2008, 11:04:29 AM
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Re: The Way Into Mordor - Dwarves (7/1: What Dwarves do best: fight!)
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2008, 11:04:29 AM »
Done. :gp: for both of you. :up:

Just one more card today as we slowly begin to transition from Helm's Deep Gimli to Gimli of The Three Hunters....

[1] Where Is He? [Dwarven]
Event • Regroup
Discard a [Dwarven] condition to make an opponent wound a minion once for each token on that condition and each card stacked on that condition.
"‘Tell me what happened and I will ease your passing.'"
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July 03, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
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Could prolly cost (0). :up:

July 03, 2008, 01:58:33 PM
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Hum... I think it's fine, after all, it can be a pretty good wipe out...

July 03, 2008, 01:59:40 PM
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But wouldn't it be only wounding a single minion?

July 03, 2008, 02:41:07 PM
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Nope. Read as: "For each token here, the Shadow player must wound a minion". Basically, perform the action once for each token. Remove a token, the Shadow player wounds a minion. Remove a token, the Shadow player wounds a minion. Lather, rinse, repeat.