Author Topic: Virtual DC Contest #3 - The Return of the King (Starting the FINAL ROUND!) (Read 122516 times)

Thranduil · « **Reply #76 on:** January 15, 2010, 04:29:11 AM »

Okay, so that's all the contestants' votes completed. But I'd love to leave it up until the deadline (Sunday) so that anybody who is not in the contest still has a chance to vote! I will probably give a

to anyone who does so (for what it's worth!).

chompers · « **Reply #77 on:** January 15, 2010, 05:18:12 PM »

Cw0rk · « **Reply #78 on:** January 17, 2010, 01:24:01 PM »

Thranduil · « **Reply #79 on:** January 18, 2010, 04:51:07 AM »

Okay I can now post the winners of last round:

1) Thranduil (#1) & MR. Lurtzy (#13)
2) TheJord (#12) & Sete (#7)
3) Sharkey (#3)

But it was an incredibly close round - each of those places were separated by 1 point, and 1 point below Sharkey were both Sweet_Stuff (#4) and Anvar (#10).

So let's give all those contestants a

as we move into the next round.

Now Reflections was all round a good set. It made a lot of previously unplayable strategies playable (for example, the

culture), added a whole host of new companions to the mix, new Ring-bearer options as well as such iconic cards such as

Rings. But there were a few disappointing cards there, and since it is sort of technically King block I thought I'd address one of the worst at the higher rarity:

This is also the 1 chance we'll have to do an

card in this contest (I reckon Suffered Much Loss can probably be left alone!). So yeah it doesn't seem great. I don't know of any one or any deck that plays it. But I think the idea is interesting enough to spark some much needed creativity!

Let me restate the rules for this contest. Any particular comments I have will be underlined below.

1) Have the same title (with a (V) attached to the end)
2) Have the same twilight cost, culture. Contrary to the rounds up until now, I see no reason to limit you to making a support area artifact, or even an artifact. For the purposes of this round, you can feel free to ignore the yellow culture and uniqueness symbol (these could be replaced with the virtual template without too much trouble) and make whatever card you think makes sense - condition, event, even follower?.
3) Have whatever attributes or attribute modifiers you think appropriate
4) Have a different text, maybe similar, but could also be on completely different lines. There is a flavour route to take here - what does Saruman have in his library? What does he use it for? How can libraries help you? - but I think there is another strong mechanical route for this round because a "library" is a bit of a non-specific thing. So try thinking about what strategies from King/Movie block need supporting (or standard for that matter)? What

sub-themes never got a chance to shine? Could it let 2 cultures work together?
5) Have a lore which you want, it's really up to you - you can keep the same lore or put in your own.

So you're card should look quite a lot like this:

•Library of Orthanc (V)

Type • Sub-type
Strength: +X
Vitality: +Y
Res: +Z
Game text.
"Lore text."
9 V 39

I like to leave a week for entries to come in, and so the deadline should be midnight GMT on Sunday 24th January. A few days before, if you've said that you want to participate and haven't given me an entry, I will be pestering you via PM, so do get them in as quickly as possible!

Entries should be submitted to me by PM (or email if you prefer).

So all that remains for me to say now is, good luck!

Thranduil

Sete · « **Reply #80 on:** January 18, 2010, 12:02:17 PM »

Congrats to all the winners and non winners! ^^ Those cards were well worthy of dream cards!! (who knows, in a near future ;P)

Good luck all for this new contest as well!

Cheers,

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Cw0rk · « **Reply #81 on:** January 19, 2010, 05:57:13 PM »

I just have a question, why are there submissions for DC that are pre-shadows involving stuff like 'resistance'?

ket_the_jet · « **Reply #82 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:46:33 PM »

Quote from: c10ckw0rk on January 19, 2010, 05:57:13 PM

I just have a question, why are there submissions for DC that are pre-shadows involving stuff like 'resistance'?

I brought up this same point. I don't mind in theory the cards doing such things in other dream sets, but as a "swing" set (7-10) which is both Movie and Standard eligible, I cannot vote for anything that makes reference to resistance, or has a toil cost, muster, etc.
-wtk

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #83 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:48:41 PM »

You're only limiting yourself.

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #84 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:59:49 PM »

Yeah, that makes more sense.

sharkey · « **Reply #85 on:** January 19, 2010, 07:13:56 PM »

Congrats all entrants, all of the cards were cool.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #86 on:** January 19, 2010, 07:27:12 PM »

Quote from: ket_the_jet on January 19, 2010, 06:46:33 PM

Quote from: c10ckw0rk on January 19, 2010, 05:57:13 PM
I just have a question, why are there submissions for DC that are pre-shadows involving stuff like 'resistance'?

I brought up this same point. I don't mind in theory the cards doing such things in other dream sets, but as a "swing" set (7-10) which is both Movie and Standard eligible, I cannot vote for anything that makes reference to resistance, or has a toil cost, muster, etc.
-wtk

Same point of view here.

Not a Zombie · « **Reply #87 on:** January 19, 2010, 07:29:20 PM »

wtk: you can write out the stuff for all the loaded keywords, like toil and muster, but you cannot for resistance. It would be convoluted and ugly

Thranduil · « **Reply #88 on:** January 20, 2010, 05:00:02 AM »

Wow, I didn't expect such an argument!

The answer as far as I can see is as follows. The purpose of virtual cards is to "fill out" the game - to fill in gaps, promote different strategies, show different takes on old strategies, promote new deck ideas and so on and so forth. Therefore you need to cater for all formats if possible, so you should make some cards geared for Movie block, some for Expanded, some for Standard, and also tournament, casual, multiplayer etc. Just because you're recreating a card from RotK block doesn't mean you should be restricted to what was known in RotK block - you're creating these cards post Hunters block, so it's ridiculous for you to forget information about the game that was introduced since RotK. And if the card might not have relevance in Movie block, it will have relevance for other formats that people want to play. If you don't want to use this version of the card in your deck, you don't have to - you can go back to the original version. You can even use King's Blade original in conjunction with King's Blade (V) in the same deck, if you so chose.

So in the case of resistance, some people will want cards that deal with resistance for their Expanded decks, which is something card designers need to be aware of.

In the case of toil, why bother writing it all out when there is a simple and concise language the game gives you to do so?

Secondly, I imagine that each virtual set would be available in the Standard environment to help move the game along, as well as the format where the original card is found. So it might be relevant to have a RotK virtual card care about resistance.

Hope that clears up my intentions. Obviously you can feel free to disagree with me, and when you enter you can also feel free to not use any concepts from post King block - that's completely up to you.

Just remember to keep those entries coming in!

Thranduil

Thranduil · « **Reply #89 on:** January 22, 2010, 04:03:55 AM »

Well I've had to actually carry out my threat this week! PMs are coming to those who have yet to give me an entry.

Thranduil