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March 22, 2010, 02:47:57 PM
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One does not simply Rock into Mordor.
Alcarin
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March 22, 2010, 02:47:57 PM »
Today, I played with
trackers against
knights and this was the case:
Alcarin, WoL
is bearing
Weary
and during Assignment phase his text is used: a tracker bearing a fortification is assigned to
Alcarin, WoL
(which is unwounded before that) to heal him. What comes first: exertion due to
Weary
or healing due to
Alcarin, WoL
text?
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March 22, 2010, 02:48:54 PM
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Re: Alcarin
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March 22, 2010, 02:48:54 PM »
Exert, then heal.
"Each time" comes before the assignment action.
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March 22, 2010, 02:57:49 PM »
Well, yes, but can that come in the middle of that action? Because that would be the case if it's first exertion, then heal.
Assignment action: assign to heal
weary
: minion is assigned => exert
I don't think it goes like this:
Assignment action: assign (
weary
exert) to heal
Is "Each time..." in this case treated as a response to assignment?
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March 22, 2010, 03:12:41 PM
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Re: Alcarin
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March 22, 2010, 03:12:41 PM »
The question is whether you can slot in a trigger half way between cost and effect.
I suspect ket may be right. You pay the cost before you get the effect, so you assign him to the minion,
Weary
notices that the Free Peoples player just assigned him to a skirmish so exerts him, then the ability completes and
Alcarin
heals himself.
I wouldn't be definite on this however.
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Sam, Great Elf Warrior
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Re: Alcarin
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March 22, 2010, 03:58:55 PM »
Assignment phase:
1: Assignment Action: FP player uses
Alcarin
's ability.
1a: Meet requirements: Nothing happens.
1b: Pay costs: FP player assigns
Alcarin
to the
tracker bearing the
fortification.
1b1: Mandatory responses to this action:
Alcarin
exerts for
Weary
.
1b2: Optional responses to this action: Both players pass.
1c: Perform effects:
FP player heals
Alcarin
.
EDIT: Theoretically, there should also be an opportunity in the middle of 1b1 for players to respond to the exertion (e.g.
Strength of Spirit
).
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Re: Alcarin
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March 23, 2010, 10:28:24 AM »
The exertion happens as a trigger to the cost, which happens before the effect of Alcarins ability.
In other words, the exertion happens before the heal.
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