Pelennor Flat and no cards in hand?

[Marcoliboar]

Oke, situation is like this, if you move to Pelennor Flat (7U345) whit zero cards in your hand then, at start of the manuevar phase do you get 2 burdes or you can chose to discard your hand, which is empty? 

[Faelach]

The way I see it, you have two options:

1.  Discard three cards from hand
OR
2.  Add 2 burdens

You have to meet one of the requirements (ie. if you can't do the first, you must do the second).
That said, if you couldn't discard the three cards because you don't have them, you have to add two burdens.

[Hobbiton Lad]

I think he is talking about the ROTK version of this site. That being said, I think you can technically choose to discard your hand even if it has 0 cards in it.

[Marcoliboar]

yep ROTK version, but the text is the same except 3 cards and hand.

[Elgar]

yep ROTK version, but the text is the same except 3 cards and hand.

But there is a difference, you always have a hand, even if it has 0 cards in it.  Therefore if you had 0 cards, you could choose to discard your hand (for the ROTK site).

[Faelach]

But there is a difference, you always have a hand, even if it has 0 cards in it.  Therefore if you had 0 cards, you could choose to discard your hand (for the ROTK site).

No.  The definition of discarding in this game is literally taking X number of cards and physically placing them in the Discard Pile.  As you have no cards in hand, you can't put any cards in the Discard Pile - you can't meet that requirement, so you have to add the burdens.

Sorry about the previous misunderstandment with the shadows site.   This applies to both actually.

[Marcoliboar]

oke, so 2 burdens it is

[Mythdracon]

That site is so nasty with Sauron card discard corruption. 

[Smeagollum]

That site is so nasty with Sauron card discard corruption. 

Make that Sauron Innitiative/discard corruption...

[Marcoliboar]

That site is so nasty with Sauron card discard corruption. 

khm khm 

[Elessar's Socks]

I'd go with Elgar's interpretation about being able to discard your hand even if you have no cards in it... would've thought there'd be documentation either way, though.

[Smeagollum]

I'd go with Elgar's interpretation about being able to discard your hand even if you have no cards in it... would've thought there'd be documentation either way, though.

Isn't it the same as Gimli as rb if he can't add threats?

[ket_the_jet]

No, it is not.

With the threats, you cannot add more because there is a limit to the number of threats you have (equal to companions).

This is more like Morgul Destroyer. Even if you have maxed out threats, you can choose to add threats with him.
-wtk

[Gil-Estel]

I'm with Ket on this one.

[Smeagollum]

No, it is not.

With the threats, you cannot add more because there is a limit to the number of threats you have (equal to companions).

This is more like Morgul Destroyer. Even if you have maxed out threats, you can choose to add threats with him.
-wtk

I'm not sure; With the destroyer there is said:

When you play this minion, you may spot a Nazgul to add 2 threats. The Free Peoples player may wound the Ring-bearer to prevent this.

So you must add it, but you can prevent it with taking a wound. But if you're full with threats you just say: Yeah okay I add the threats, but no effect.
With Gimli it's different:

at the start of each skirmish involving him, add 2 burdens or 2 threats.[\quote]
So you'll have to choose either one and if you can't take threats, because of the comps, then you'll have to take burdens,

Pelennor Flat says about similair to Gimli:

At the start of the maneuver phase, the Free Peoples player must discard his or her hand or add 2 burdens. [\]
So also a choice you need to forfill one of the two.
Only thing I'm not sure of is if you still have a hand if you've no cards in it. If you have, how do you call it then: what is your hand after discarding it.. Maybe some clarrification about a hand. If you've not then it works exactly as Gimli.