Pelennor Flat and no cards in hand?

[ket_the_jet]

With Morgul Destroyer, you can "choose" to add the threats even if there is no room to add them.
-wtk

[Elgar]

But there is a difference, you always have a hand, even if it has 0 cards in it.  Therefore if you had 0 cards, you could choose to discard your hand (for the ROTK site).

No.  The definition of discarding in this game is literally taking X number of cards and physically placing them in the Discard Pile.  As you have no cards in hand, you can't put any cards in the Discard Pile - you can't meet that requirement, so you have to add the burdens.

Sorry about the previous misunderstandment with the shadows site.  This applies to both actually.

Wrong.  It says to discard you hand.  If you have 0 cards in hand, you still have a hand, and can discard it.

You would be correct for the updated site, as it says to discard 3 cards from hand.  If you don't have 3 cards to discard, you can't choose that option.

[Faelach]

The Comprehensive Rulebook says that when one discards, they must show that card to every other player.  When you don't have any cards, can you show the card you're discarding?   It seems to me, then, that you can't discard your hand when you have no cards to discard...

[ket_the_jet]

The Comprehensive Rulebook says that when one discards, they must show that card to every other player.  When you don't have any cards, can you show the card you're discarding?   It seems to me, then, that you can't discard your hand when you have no cards to discard...

Here's a magic trick. I am going to show you what I discard right now from across the computer. Did you see nothing? That is because I just discarded it.
-wtk

[Smeagollum]

The Comprehensive Rulebook says that when one discards, they must show that card to every other player.  When you don't have any cards, can you show the card you're discarding?  It seems to me, then, that you can't discard your hand when you have no cards to discard...

Here's a magic trick. I am going to show you what I discard right now from across the computer. Did you see nothing? That is because I just discarded it.
-wtk

yeah, but you've got to discard your hand... not the cards in it.... 

[Gil-Estel]

The wound is optional. You can not be forced to wound, that would be insane! You cannot be forced to prevent something if you don't want to.

[Smeagollum]

The wound is optional. You can not be forced to wound, that would be insane! You cannot be forced to prevent something if you don't want to.

But if you don't take the wounds you need to add the threats in case of Destroyer and burdens if brute.

[Gil-Estel]

true, you take the threats even when there are too many. That is why you have to time the Destroyer well. With 5 comps and 5 threats, he is worthless in a sense of adding threats/wounds.

[Smeagollum]

true, you take the threats even when there are too many. That is why you have to time the Destroyer well. With 5 comps and 5 threats, he is worthless in a sense of adding threats/wounds.

Yup..

Something different... Heije, we both live in the dutch Paradise, we participate in some same tournaments, but did we ever play against eachother? Can't remember... I know I played against Ton and some of your other buddies. But I think I never played against you?!

[Elgar]

The Comprehensive Rulebook says that when one discards, they must show that card to every other player.  When you don't have any cards, can you show the card you're discarding?   It seems to me, then, that you can't discard your hand when you have no cards to discard...

The Comp rule book say s when you discard *cards* you must do them one at a time so all can see them.  When you discard you hand that contains zero cards, you are discarding 0 cards, 1 at a time.  Everybody can see that.

[Smeagollum]

but it doesn't say cards: you must discard your hand.. bloody game this lotr... quess im joking here

[TheJord]

Discarding your hand when you have no hand is like exhausting an exhausted companion.

It can be done.

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