Rangers/Sauron Wounding. Need help!

[ket_the_jet]

As the ring bearer, Boromir gains the word "ring-bound."
-wtk

[itjunkie]

wow, didn't notice that about the FP...

anyways, putting in 1 or 2 orc archer troop won't hurt i guess... its still within the theme of the shadow anyways.

[Fowler]

Is a complete disaster my deck... Is possible that gondor+sauron wounding can will win games? Or is better change the fellow? actually im playing this deck;

*Smeagol, Bearer of Great Secrets (RB)(9R+30) 

The One Ring, Such a Weight To Carry (7R2)

Fellowship (35) 
1x *Thrarin, Dwarven Smith (1U27) 
2x *Scroll of Isildur (9R36) 
1x *Seeing Stone of Minas Arnor (9R37) 
1x *Seeing Stone of Orthanc (9R38) 
1x *Anborn, Skilled Huntsman (6C48) 
1x *Damrod, Ranger of Ithilien (4U114) 
1x *Faramir, Ithilien Ranger (6P121)  (start)
1x *Mablung, Soldier of Gondor (4U127) 
1x *Sam, Son Of Hamfast (1C311)  (start)
4x Ranger of Ithilien (4C130) 
3x Don't Look at Them (6R39) 
2x Hobbit Appetite (1C294) 
4x Might Of Numenor (3C43) 
2x Power According to His Stature (1R308) 
4x Coat of Mail (1C101) 
4x Knight's Spear (7C108) 
1x Boromir My Brother
1x Last Throw


shadow (35)

4x Orc Assassin
4x Orc Scouting Band
2x Orc Cutthroat
2x Orc Patrol
3x Grishnakh, Orc Captain
2x Desert Lord
2x Ulairë Enqueä, Liutenant of Morgul
2x Grond, Hammer of the Underworld
4x Hate
4x Under the Watching Eye
4x Orc Bowmen
2x Dead Marshes

[ramolnar]

Fowler, how does your Fellowship actually kill anything? Besides Smeagol? You could play cards that do things instead of Coat of Mail and Might of Numenor. I know people like Might here, but I would play Sapling of the White Tree, power up Scroll of Isildur, and have protection in the skirmish phase. Or Athelas, which is never a bad card.

[jdizzy001]

Honestly, my favorite run of Movie Block Ring-Bound Rangers right now is one that jdizzy runs. He packs Ranger Bow, Banner of Westernesse, and Citadel of Minas Tirith and kills all of the minions with that, New Errand, and Arrows Thick in the Air. Great deck.

That's my deck!!! I made it first! It's mine! Mine, mine, MINE! Just mine!

That's who gave me the idea!  I had forgotten who gave me the idea to run gondy rangers with the bows and citadels.  Thanks for the complement ket.  And, gotta give credit where credit is due, thanks for the deck idea hrcho.  It is a very fun deck to play, you're a genius for thinking of it!

[hrcho]

That's who gave me the idea!  I had forgotten who gave me the idea to run gondy rangers with the bows and citadels.  Thanks for the complement ket.  And, gotta give credit where credit is due, thanks for the deck idea hrcho.  It is a very fun deck to play, you're a genius for thinking of it!

Really?  

I mean, yes... of course I am. I know that.  

Fowler, how does your Fellowship actually kill anything? Besides Smeagol? You could play cards that do things instead of Coat of Mail and Might of Numenor. I know people like Might here, but I would play Sapling of the White Tree, power up Scroll of Isildur, and have protection in the skirmish phase. Or Athelas, which is never a bad card.

As Zadetek said, Sapling of the White Tree requires spotting of an unbound Man and Smeagol, BoGS makes that a tough thing to do. Coat of Mail and Might of Numenor are probably among the most used cards and for a good reason.

@ramolnar: I think you should decide if you want Power Rangers or Shooter rangers. Former being Faramir, CoG, Ranger of Ithilien and an occasional Gondorian Ranger equipped with Sword of Gondor, Faramir's Cloak and skirmish events that make them nasty. The latter is a wounding type of deck which runs mainly around Ranger Bow and Mablung. Both versions need good site-uppers (cards that raise minions site number). For Power Rangers you'd be best off with Ancient Roads and a copy or two of Gondorian Ranger. Shooters are best with Gondorian Ranger and run best if you have Boromir or Isildur as RB. Also, Shooters require massive amounts of healing.

I'm guessing you just want to make a running deck and a version of Power Rangers would be your best bet. Just make sure you have plenty of after-fellowship-phase healing (Might of Numenor being the best card for it), lot of burden removal for Smeagol and Coat of Mail for your rangers to survive big nasties.

[Fowler]

the question is, can work rangers/smeagol runner/gondor with Sauron Wounding?

Play a Ranger Bow Deck has the risk that if fail with Might of Numeror... More good cards to heal? (or can heal more that one wound)

The Fellow with coat of mail is plenty of commons and seems weak but works fine;

http://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/index.php/topic,4163.0.html

[hrcho]

Might of Numenor, Banner of Westernesse, Citadel of Minas Tirith and Light Shining Faintly are the main healing engines, but if you wanna run, Might of Numenor and Banner of Westernesse are the only ones that can help you to survive the run.

I pack my Ranger Wounding deck with Site Control Dunland, because they are the ones who cause the most trouble to my Rangers so I make sure I control sites faster than my opponent.

I still think you'd be better of with Power Rangers. They are much easier to keep alive and rely on fewer cards. Ranger Wounding can be powerful and it's very fun, but it needs to be packed with a fast shadow and Sauron Wound is not that fast.

[bolgerfattie]

you are a famous Magic player, not a LOTR player. Spend money for a ELVES/ NAZGUL  deck.

Dont think in a shadow deck that dies to Legolas dauthless hunter + hobbits .

...or play ichorid again.   

[Fowler]

you are a famous Magic player, not a LOTR player. Spend money for a ELVES/ NAZGUL  deck.

Dont think in a shadow deck that dies to Legolas dauthless hunter + hobbits .

...or play ichorid again.   

I like orcs, and play LotR for fun. This isnt mtg ¬¬

[ket_the_jet]

know people like Might here, but I would play Sapling of the White Tree, power up Scroll of Isildur, and have protection in the skirmish phase.

Again, you need to spot an unbound Man to play Sapling of the White Tree. It is kind of a wasted slot unless you run Madril, Faramir's Aide or an Aragorn who will be a main companion. Is King in Exile worth it for the single heal of Faramir, Captain of Gondor each turn? Probably not.
-wtk

[itjunkie]

seriously? ur shadow still isn't winning games for you? utwe +orc bowmen + hate should be enough unless you're up against major healing... hrm... i'd recommend these changes:

-1 ulaire enquea or desert lord (i'd say enquea)
-1 orc assassin
+1 tower assassin (in case there are allies that heal)
+1 orc ambusher (cheaper)


anyways, my sauron wounding looks like this...

4x utwe
4x orc bowmen
4x hate
4x orc scouting band
2x orc cutthroat
3x orc patrol
3x grishnakh
1x Desert Lord
1x Ulaire Enquea
1x Dead Marshes
4x Orc Soldier
2x Orc Ambusher
1x Tower Assassin
1x Mordor Strength (surprise!)

anyways, i pair this shadow with a dwarven fellowship. i don't usually hold cards in my hand, basically just put down minions that can fit within the given twilight.

i noticed the cards that usually gets stuck in my hand is enquea since my opponent expects it and usually maintain 5 companions or below 6 burdens. also, i used to use 1x Grond, hotu but i swap it out for a third Orc Patrol... no big issue, i think you can use either.

Things to note however:
1. Sam, Son of Hamfast is banned in our games, so I don't have the use for orc Assassin and that's why he's not in my deck. Anyways, decks that use Sam, SoH usually have him for fodder anyways. no point putting in 4 assassins to counter 1 companion that the FP will willingly have killed anyway. those that run more than sam,soh should be able to have cards to take care of assassin.
2. Enquea gets stuck in my hand most of the time. So I would suggest cutting down to 1 enquea.
3. Use the sites: Use the site that gives +2 to minion archery total for each companion over 4 - it'll make things bloddy pretty quick (not sure if there is an rotk site available for this in movie block though). Use the site 3 that adds threats so when someone dies, you get a few additional wounds.
4. Due to luck, I guess...I haven't been able to play against condition discarding freeps. the worst i've been up against was Gandalf's discard all, Blood runs chill and Fortress never fallen. So I keep 1 marshes.

tweak your FP a bit... and cut down on the orc assassins. your shadow seems good to go.

[Fowler]

ty itjunkie, gold for u

I like Desert Lord to made 2 extertions and keep a hate for next turn and kill the best companion. With Morgullduin is reasonable cut a Enquea, agree.

I think that 2x Dead marshes is auto-include

In my meta people play Sam, SoH and Galadriel LR...

[ket_the_jet]

Here is the answer to all riddles, as far as I am concerned.
-wtk

[itjunkie]

lol i tried your shadow, ket. paired it with the dwarves... maybe it's not meant to be paired with dwarves, but your build didn't quite work for me.
i'll give it a few more tries though once my 2nd copy of they stole it arrives i think the gollum side focuses more on they stole it in this deck as opposed to the threats, so i'll give it more tries as soon as my gollum cards are complete. i play a lot of multiplayer games though...bowmen do more damage in multiplayer as opposed to threats.

@fowler