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[macheteman]

NG stands for ninja gollum

[macheteman]

i think your new cards are fine. i'm not usually the hugest fan of cards that increase vitality with text instead of the neat little red circle, but i don't think there is anything wrong with the card. it seems pretty balanced.

the mouth seems just a little off. like, you get pitiful effects for huge costs at first, and then you get huge payoffs for . i think it should go 3,2,1 istead of 1,2,3. because in the manuever and assignment you can't be sure who you will skirmish. but during the skirmish phase, you can know exactly who to key in on.

[menace64]

the mouth seems just a little off. like, you get pitiful effects for huge costs at first, and then you get huge payoffs for . i think it should go 3,2,1 istead of 1,2,3. because in the manuever and assignment you can't be sure who you will skirmish. but during the skirmish phase, you can know exactly who to key in on.

I was thinking about it some more this morning, and while the progressive nature of his effects stay the same, what do you think of this version:

*The Mouth of Sauron, Weaver of Wicked Words
Minion * Man
Strength-9
Vitality-3
Site Number-5
Maneuver: Remove to make an unbound companion resistance -1 until the regroup phase.
Assignment: Remove to make an unbound companion resistance -2 until the regroup phase.
Skirmish: Remove to make an unbound companion resistance -3 until the regroup phase.
20R+43

But if we switch it up:

*The Mouth of Sauron, Weaver of Wicked Words
Minion * Man
Strength-9
Vitality-3
Site Number-5
Maneuver: Remove to make an unbound companion resistance -3 until the regroup phase.
Assignment: Remove to make an unbound companion resistance -2 until the regroup phase.
Skirmish: Remove to make an unbound companion resistance -1 until the regroup phase.
20R+43

[Doom]

I would change the cost around, so 1-2-3 twilight. Although the first version makes more sense to me.

[Stormcrow]

Yeah. I like the first version better. Your other cards are great. 

[sickofpalantirs]

*Ufthak, Taken By the Great Spider
Possession * Support Area
To play, spot Shelob. When you play Ufthak, add a token here.
Skirmish or Regroup: Discard Ufthak (or remove a token here) to exert or heal Shelob.
"'D'you remember old Ufthak? We lost him for days. Then we found him in a corner; hanging up as he was, but he was wide awake and glaring. How we laughed! She'd forgotten him, maybe, but we didn't touch him – no good interfering with Her.'"
20R19

Ooo this combos nicely with the Shelob from earlier.

*Déagol, Bearer of the Recovered Lost
Companion
Strength-3
Vitality-4
Ringed Resistance-7
Ring-bound. To play, exert a Ring-bound companion.
Each time the fellowship moves, add a threat (if you cannot, add a burden).
Regroup: Wound Sméagol to heal Déagol, or wound Déagol to heal Sméagol.
"‘And behold! when he washed the mud away, there in his hand lay a beautiful golden ring; and it shone and glittered in the sun, so that his heart was glad.'"
20R+16

You know what could be kind of cool? A Deagol with the ability "Anytime a card spots or exerts smeagol, you can use it by spotting or exerting Deagol".  Except worded properly.  Your card is cool though

Whispering Mists
Minion * Wraith
Strength-6
Vitality-3
Site Number-4
Enduring.
Each other Wraith minion is vitality +1.
"…some like dimly shining smoke, some like misty flames flickering slowly above unseen candles; here and there they twisted like ghostly sheets unfurled by hidden hands."
20R52

Sure.

*Passed Out of All Knowledge
Condition * Response
At the start of the regroup phase, if the Ring-bearer is not wearing The One Ring, you may play this condition to your support area. Your hand size is -1. If you can spot your Ring-bearer, he or she may not wear The One Ring; otherwise, the first minion you play each turn is twilight cost +2.
Response: Spot the Ring-bearer wearing The One Ring to draw a card for each burden you can spot. Discard this condition.
"Myth became legend, legend became myth…"
20R+2

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I'm confused again.  How can the free peoples played use this if it prevents them from wearing The One Ring?
Otherwise i'd say it's ok. And also you may have already addressed it, but does this card stay active during your freeps turns if you play it during your shadow turn and vice versa?

[TheJord]

*Déagol, Bearer of the Recovered Lost Gollum
Companion
Strength-3
Vitality-4
Ringed Resistance-7
Ring-bound. To play, exert a Ring-bound companion.
Each time the fellowship moves, add a threat (if you cannot, add a burden).
Regroup: Wound Sméagol to heal Déagol, or wound Déagol to heal Sméagol.
"‘And behold! when he washed the mud away, there in his hand lay a beautiful golden ring; and it shone and glittered in the sun, so that his heart was glad.'"
20R+16

He is unplayable as Ring-bearer because you would not have any RB companions to exert.

[MR. Lurtzy]

I don't think you play the ring-bearer, so much as "place" them. So that line would only trigger if he wasn't the ring-bearer.

[menace64]

You know what could be kind of cool? A Deagol with the ability "Anytime a card spots or exerts smeagol, you can use it by spotting or exerting Deagol".  Except worded properly.  Your card is cool though

Originally I was going to put that in. However, I was worried that the response would be "Well why not just play Smeagol then?" It would just be having 2 Smeagols in play, and I'm not really big on that. I'll keep it in mind though.

I'm confused again.  How can the free peoples played use this if it prevents them from wearing The One Ring?
Otherwise i'd say it's ok. And also you may have already addressed it, but does this card stay active during your freeps turns if you play it during your shadow turn and vice versa?

Lol I'm retarded. You're absolutely right, and at this point I might end up just scrapping the entire card. It's getting too clunky. But yeah, the Free Peoples portion of the text is only active while your Ring-bearer is spottable.

I don't think you play the ring-bearer, so much as "place" them. So that line would only trigger if he wasn't the ring-bearer.

Correct. The only real reason for that to-play exertion is to help reinforce the companion theme of an additional cost to play. If Deagol is played as a regular companion, he can only come around if another Ring-bound companion is in the fellowship (which, obviously, will always be satisfied by the Ring-bearer).

[menace64]

My hope is that I can just sneak this one by, and no one will even bother telling me how bad/broken it is:

*Aragorn, Bearer of Kingly Blood
Companion * Man
Strength-8
Vitality-4
Ringed Resistance-4
For each artifact Aragorn bears, he is resistance +1.
While Aragorn is the Ring-bearer, each time the fellowship moves, make a Shadow player name a race. Until the end of the turn, each companion of the named race is strength -3.
"The same blood flows in my veins. The same weakness."
20R+20

Since Gondor already has three Ring-bearers, I went into designing this card with much caution, not wanting to tread on anybody's heels. They're all good, so Aragorn had to be a different kind of good.

For starters, he's got the 4 vitality, something they don't have. The fact that he has the highest strength of them all offsets his lower resistance. But he has a built in resistance-booster (extremely limited, since there aren't many bearable artifacts to choose from) and there's no skirmish-penalty text... directly, that is, seeing as the Shadow player gets to seriously handicap a race of his choice every time you move - which means a naked Aragorn Ring-bearer is likely to have just 5 strength after a move, along with any other Men unlucky enough to be hanging around.

I figure that balances the fact that it's Aragorn. Maybe not?

*The King of Gondor
Condition * Support Area
While borne by a companion, each companion (except the Ring-bearer) is resistance +1 for each Free Peoples culture you spot in the fellowship.
Regroup: Spot Aragorn, Elendil, or Isildur with strength 11 or more to transfer this condition to him.
"'This is your realm… and it is your task to order its beginning and to preserve what may be preserved… For the time comes of the Dominion of Men…'"
20R+24

Yes, it's a Rare+, and yes I realize it's not insanely useful. This is one of those cards where the title and lore came long before the text, and I didn't really want an overpowered card here. It's simple, closely following the theme of the rightful King coming to power, uniting his kingdom.

Field of Cormallen
Plains. When the fellowship moves to this site, if it is a sanctuary, the Free Peoples player may reveal the top 4 cards of his or her draw deck and take a revealed Free Peoples card into hand.
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20X54

Another box-topper site! And now that I read it again it seems of limited use, but I'll let you decide that for yourself before I start fiddling with it.

[Doom]

is a pretty high cost. I would change that to "May reveal the top 4 cards of his draw deck and take *all* revealed freeps into hand." I also don't think the politically correct him/her is really necessary.

I'll let someone else bash the gorn...won't even say how apart from the brokenness of the card he doesn't even fit in LOTR really.

[sickofpalantirs]

Originally I was going to put that in. However, I was worried that the response would be "Well why not just play Smeagol then?" It would just be having 2 Smeagols in play, and I'm not really big on that. I'll keep it in mind though.

Fair enough.  But isn't this Deagol close enough to "why not just play smeagol territory?" Is it just so you can have some unbound companions chilling around?

Lol I'm retarded. You're absolutely right, and at this point I might end up just scrapping the entire card. It's getting too clunky. But yeah, the Free Peoples portion of the text is only active while your Ring-bearer is spottable.

What I'm trying to say, and failing miserably, is if I play this as a freeps card in the regroup phase, does it make my first minion twilight cost +2 when I have a shadow phase next?

My hope is that I can just sneak this one by, and no one will even bother telling me how bad/broken it is:

*Aragorn, Bearer of Kingly Blood
Companion * Man
Strength-8
Vitality-4
Ringed Resistance-4
For each artifact Aragorn bears, he is resistance +1.
While Aragorn is the Ring-bearer, each time the fellowship moves, make a Shadow player name a race. Until the end of the turn, each companion of the named race is strength -3.
"The same blood flows in my veins. The same weakness."
20R+20

Why is an Aragorn RB so overpowered? I know I've been told before but I've forgotten.  the Subtitle makes me question the ability, if it's all about him being a king of Gondor, why does it force you to be multi-cultural?

*The King of Gondor
Condition * Support Area
While borne by a companion, each companion (except the Ring-bearer) is resistance +1 for each Free Peoples culture you spot in the fellowship.
Regroup: Spot Aragorn, Elendil, or Isildur with strength 11 or more to transfer this condition to him.
"'This is your realm… and it is your task to order its beginning and to preserve what may be preserved… For the time comes of the Dominion of Men…'"
20R+24

I'd say its pretty snazzy. makes bow of Minas Tirith a very useful card to have

Field of Cormallen
Plains. When the fellowship moves to this site, if it is a sanctuary, the Free Peoples player may reveal the top 4 cards of his or her draw deck and take a revealed Free Peoples card into hand.
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20X54

cool by me.

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[macheteman]

not a fan of an aragorn RB. i thought the whole point was that he DIDN'T ever try to have it. other than that, hes fine.

as for the king of gondor, i probably wouldn't waste slots in my deck for a resistance boost that didn't affect my RB, but then again i don't play standard very much and i suppose it could be quite useful. mechanically i think its great.

i like the site.

[Invincible]

Aragorn is pretty insane as a Ring-Bearer. Since he's ring-bound you dont have to fear grima so here's what can be played on him:

Aragorn's Bow + Anduril, sword that was Broken + Knife of the Galadhrim + Ring of Barahir + Coat of Mail + Not Bound to its Fate x4  and you get the ring of rings and the Scroll of Isildur

Even with the -3 from his text, he is strenght 12, vitality 5 and resistance11 with no burden drawback, he's Archer and his bow grants him a swarm protection, coat of mail makes him very hard to overwhelm.

The reason why this is insane is that he can easily be you only companion, tank him, play some gondor bowman and a few banners blowing and you get the perfet solo deck OR add some companions and you have a fighter, archer high resistance ring-bearer with more vitality and strenght than frodo could ever have.

In my opinion, there are way to much stuff that plays on Aragorn, that's why I would add "While Aragorn is the Ring-bearer, he cannot bear any possession".

[FM]

not a fan of an aragorn RB. i thought the whole point was that he DIDN'T ever try to have it. other than that, hes fine.

And a Gimli Ring-bearer is perfectly fine? I say, if Gimli got the nod, all #$&*@! breaks lose and we should have anyone bearing it. Thrarin Ring-bearer? Perhaps a Rohan one?

I'd also like to mention a double-move would make him -6. And if you could pull a triple-move, -9. Just saying...