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July 22, 2011, 08:26:51 AM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2011, 08:26:51 AM »
I would make Aragorn's text "While Aragorn is the ringbearer, he is resistance +1 for each artifact you spot. Aragorn may not bear possessions or artifacts." Just a thought.

July 22, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2011, 01:17:21 PM »
if aragorn can't bear possessions or artifacts, it takes all the fun out of it.

July 22, 2011, 05:05:35 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2011, 05:05:35 PM »
I don't like the idea of Aragorn abandoning all of his weapons because he has the Ring.

I would say something along the lines of "If Aragorn is the ring-bearer, at the end of each turn he did not win a skirmish, discard a companion" to represent his feelings of inadequacy.
"The rule of Gondor is mine!"

July 22, 2011, 08:25:52 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2011, 08:25:52 PM »
I'd change it to "exhaust a companion/add 2 burdens." Because then all the shadow has to do is not play any minions.

July 23, 2011, 07:49:51 AM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #64 on: July 23, 2011, 07:49:51 AM »
When D was making alt ring-bearer they were realy careful not to make solo decks to easy, so either their alt. ring-bearer had low stats (galadriel, sam and smeagol) or a strong drawback (boromir, faramir, gimli and gandalf). Bilbo has both because of the support cards he has. Aragorn has WAY more support cards (might be the one with the most toys of the game), has the highest strenght/vitality of all the alt. rb so that is why a RB aragorn is realy touchy.

July 23, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2011, 01:35:53 PM »
As for Aragorn I think he is not far off to be balance.

It simply need an extra text in order to prevent easy solo RB.

Each time the fellowship move the shadow player may make a companion str-5? instead of -3 of a named race?

Also did you think about aragorn's bow? both of them? with few companion the first bow is deadly a 8 hit point RB is awful.

You can also had aragorn may not bear possession, that will leave him with all his artifact.

Anyhow you still have great ideas, can't wait to see more of this set!!!

July 23, 2011, 04:14:31 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2011, 04:14:31 PM »
[4] *Aragorn, Bearer of Kingly Blood [Gondor]
Companion * Man
Strength-7
Vitality-4
Ringed Resistance-6
While Aragorn is the Ring-bearer, he may not bear weapons (except artifacts), and each time the fellowship moves, make a Shadow player name a race. Until the end of the turn, each companion of the named race is strength -4.
"The same blood flows in my veins. The same weakness."
20R+20

Dropped his strength to 7, deleted the resistance booster, and added in a bit that limits the weapons he has to choose from. Also raised the strength penalty to 4. Getting closer to balanced?
« Last Edit: July 24, 2011, 05:42:42 PM by menace64 »

July 23, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2011, 05:10:52 PM »
While Aragorn is the Ring-bearer, he may not bear weapons (except artifacts), and each time the fellowship moves, make a Shadow player name a race. Until the end of the turn, each companion of the named race is strength -4.

 Instead of "Each time the fellowship moves, make a Shadow player name a race.", I would put "At the start of each turn, make a Shadow player name a race."  
« Last Edit: July 23, 2011, 05:30:04 PM by Stormcrow »

July 23, 2011, 05:15:57 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2011, 05:15:57 PM »
Honestly I'd just scratch Aragorn. But if you're set on him, he does need a little more resistance, or some kind of resistance booster. Otherwise corruption will K0 in a couple of turns.

July 23, 2011, 07:19:48 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2011, 07:19:48 PM »
sound better but now I think he may be a little too weak,  each time the fellowship moves, make a Shadow player spot a companion. Until the end of the turn, that companion is strength -5.

what do you think?

July 23, 2011, 11:36:19 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2011, 11:36:19 PM »
i think there are too many cooks in this pot...

July 24, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2011, 07:53:25 PM »
I boosted his resistance from 4 to 6. For now let's just leave him be, as I want to post a few new cards:

(0) *The Tomb of Balin [Dwarven]
Artifact * Support Area
To play, stack a unique Dwarf from your dead pile here. If this artifact is discarded, return that Dwarf to the dead pile.
Each Dwarf at an underground site may take no more than 1 wound per skirmish.
"‘I fear he had ill tidings to record in a fair hand… The first clear word is sorrow…'"
20R7

Maybe a few of you will remember these cards of mine from way-back-when. These are my 'tomb' cards. Basically they all work the same, in that their cost is stacking a unique companion that's in the dead pile in order to gain a limited ability not normally found within the culture. The stacked dead companion is still considered part of the dead pile, and is able to be spotted as such (so if Gimli dies and gets stacked on the above card, you can't play another Gimli).

I've had these cards for a really long time now, and while I'm determined to maintain the counter-cultural bonuses given by them, I'm very very open to what benefits they actually bring. If you think another bonus would work better, please say so!

EDIT: gk1964 had some good suggestions that convinced me that these tomb cards would be a lot cooler if they more-closely followed cultural enforcement. I altered Tomb of Balin and incorporated a site spotting requirement as well... and I liked it so much that I've extended that kind of ability to all the others.

(0) *The Last Ship, Bound For Valinor [Elven]
Artifact * Support Area
To play, stack a unique Elf from your dead pile here. If this artifact is discarded, return that Elf to the dead pile.
Each time you move from a river site, you may heal 2 Elves.
"…the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew, and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth…"
20R10

Right now I think this card is lousy. Honestly I'm just not sure what the [Elven] culture really lacks... Help!

There are few more tomb cards to show, but I'll save them for later.

[9] *Bolg, Chieftain of the Horde [Orc]
Minion * Orc
Strength-17
Vitality-3
Site Number-4
Fierce. To play, spot an [Orc] Orc.
For each Dwarf you spot, Bolg is damage +1.
Skirmish: Remove an [Orc] Orc in your discard pile from the game to make Bolg strength +1.
"…Bolg came howling against them…"
20R+31

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« Last Edit: July 26, 2011, 10:04:43 PM by menace64 »

July 24, 2011, 07:58:12 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2011, 07:58:12 PM »
Tomb of Balin is kinda worthless.  How many dwarf cards key off Resistance anyway?  That's my opinion at least.

Last Ship has its uses...I'd say two tokens though, as obviously you have to have a companion killed first and purposely lose one skirmish (does it require only one skirmish lost?) I'd say it's worth two tokens.
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July 24, 2011, 09:32:51 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2011, 09:32:51 PM »
Honestly both the stacking cards seem pretty wierd, and I don't think they would work.

Scenario:
You have a 9 companion rainbow fellowship at site 7. Gimli dies and you stick him on Tomb of Balin. You then play Gimli again since he isn't in your dead pile anymore. But what happens when Tomb of Balin is discarded? Then suddenly you have Gimli in your dead pile AND Gimli on the board. Two obvious problems with that are it breaks the 9 fellowship companion limit, and you can't play a unique companion that's in the dead pile.

While that is hypothetical, it is a reason the card may not work.

July 24, 2011, 09:52:45 PM
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Re: Several years in the making: My Reflections Gold set is finished!
« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2011, 09:52:45 PM »
lol read my post again. I covered that  :uh-huh: