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[hsiale]

Smeagol, Old Noser (promo, 0P18) is a condition instead of a companion as he should be. The regular version is correct. Noticed it in deck builder, didn't try how it works while playing, I guess it could be funny

[MarcinS]

Smeagol, Old Noser (promo, 0P18) is a condition instead of a companion as he should be. The regular version is correct. Noticed it in deck builder, didn't try how it works while playing, I guess it could be funny

That's because it had Thundering Host text. It was mapped wrong.

[ramolnar]

In this game, Elessar's Edict did not work correctly - it did not let Elrond discard the wraith. It still considered him killed. It's at site 4.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=ramolnar$pjr52lbxy0xatbuj

[MarcinS]

In this game, Elessar's Edict did not work correctly - it did not let Elrond discard the wraith. It still considered him killed. It's at site 4.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=ramolnar$pjr52lbxy0xatbuj

Fixed: - "Ellesar's Edict" should now correctly discard the Wraith.

[Alzarac]

Hey MercinS,
Turgon, Man of Belfalas wouldn't wound a minion.  I exerted him to do so, but the minion wasn't wounded.

[hsiale]

Boromir, Bearer of Council doesn't give the choice to add two wounds at the start of his skirmish if he is exhausted (which is still the choice one should make if Boromir is wearing Ring of Rings)

[hsiale]

I remember seeing Turgon working correctly, was the minion free from wound preventing cards like Broad-bladed Sword?

[Alzarac]

Yes, it was.  I was surprised...

[MarcinS]

Hey MercinS,
Turgon, Man of Belfalas wouldn't wound a minion.  I exerted him to do so, but the minion wasn't wounded.

I need a game replay link.

[MarcinS]

Boromir, Bearer of Council doesn't give the choice to add two wounds at the start of his skirmish if he is exhausted (which is still the choice one should make if Boromir is wearing Ring of Rings)

Are you sure you can choose to wound twice a character that can only receive one wound?

[hsiale]

In this case it's an effect, not a cost, so you can. If you happen to kill Boromir this way, tough luck. If you can prevent the wounds somehow (Ring of Rings, Sapling of the White Tree, Narsil, BotF etc), you survive. Similar example: you can play Red Wrath to try to kill an exhausted companion.

[MarcinS]

In this case it's an effect, not a cost, so you can. If you happen to kill Boromir this way, tough luck. If you can prevent the wounds somehow (Ring of Rings, Sapling of the White Tree, Narsil, BotF etc), you survive. Similar example: you can play Red Wrath to try to kill an exhausted companion.

I think, effect or cost, doesn't really matter here. What matters here is the rule that says:
"If the effect of a card or special ability requires you to choose one of two different actions, you must choose an action that you are fully capable of performing (if possible)."
So if you can't wound Boromir twice (as he has only one vitality) you have to choose the other one.

[hsiale]

What you say is true. However there is no limit (in game rules) on how many times you can wound a character (it's the same with burdens). There's only an effect performed when number of wounds equals vitality or number of burdens equals resistance, but you can always choose any alive character to take any number of wounds - how you deal with them later and if you can save that character from death is up to you.

Threats or exertions are another thing, as the rules state what is the limit of adding threats or exerting characters, that's why you are sometimes forced to add burdens with Isildur, BoH or Gimli, BoG. But with Boromir, BoC both choices are always possible, though each of them can sometimes cause the end of the game.

[MarcinS]

What you say is true. However there is no limit (in game rules) on how many times you can wound a character (it's the same with burdens). There's only an effect performed when number of wounds equals vitality or number of burdens equals resistance, but you can always choose any alive character to take any number of wounds - how you deal with them later and if you can save that character from death is up to you.

Threats or exertions are another thing, as the rules state what is the limit of adding threats or exerting characters, that's why you are sometimes forced to add burdens with Isildur, BoH or Gimli, BoG. But with Boromir, BoC both choices are always possible, though each of them can sometimes cause the end of the game.

Ok, what you say seems fine, just one more fine detail, to make sure I get this right this time. Can you choose to assign a wound to a character that has 0 vitality.

Here is an example:
Your Aragorn is dying due to having wounds=vitality (0 vitality). Your opponent has "Held Ground" in play and chooses to use "is about to be killed" trigger (so your companion is in play with 0 vitality, while it resolves). Now, your opponent removes one threat (lets assume there were 3 threats) and discards two possessions. Lets assume one of the possessions he discards is "Herugrim" on your exhausted "Theoden". This causes the Theoden to die due to having 0 vitality. Because your character (Theoden) died, you have to assign 2 remaining threats. Can you assign one (or both of them) to your (still in the process of dying) Aragorn?

[ramolnar]

What you say is true. However there is no limit (in game rules) on how many times you can wound a character (it's the same with burdens). There's only an effect performed when number of wounds equals vitality or number of burdens equals resistance, but you can always choose any alive character to take any number of wounds - how you deal with them later and if you can save that character from death is up to you.

Threats or exertions are another thing, as the rules state what is the limit of adding threats or exerting characters, that's why you are sometimes forced to add burdens with Isildur, BoH or Gimli, BoG. But with Boromir, BoC both choices are always possible, though each of them can sometimes cause the end of the game.

Ok, what you say seems fine, just one more fine detail, to make sure I get this right this time. Can you choose to assign a wound to a character that has 0 vitality.

Here is an example:
Your Aragorn is dying due to having wounds=vitality (0 vitality). Your opponent has "Held Ground" in play and chooses to use "is about to be killed" trigger (so your companion is in play with 0 vitality, while it resolves). Now, your opponent removes one threat (lets assume there were 3 threats) and discards two possessions. Lets assume one of the possessions he discards is "Herugrim" on your exhausted "Theoden". This causes the Theoden to die due to having 0 vitality. Because your character (Theoden) died, you have to assign 2 remaining threats. Can you assign one (or both of them) to your (still in the process of dying) Aragorn?

No, because he has 0 vitality. A character with 0 vitality cannot be assigned a wound. In the other example, Boromir has 1 vitality. You can assign 1 wound to him. Wounds are always assigned one at a time. To "wound him twice", I could assign a wound to Boromir, respond with Intimidate, then assign the second wound, then respond with Gondor will see it Done. That should be legal.