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January 24, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
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« Reply #375 on: January 24, 2012, 02:19:35 PM »
Banished triggers during skirmishes that shadow side wins due to all FP characters being removed from a skirmish (in the example I had it was Merry, Learned Guide discarded). It should not trigger in such case, as there are no FP characters in the skirmish the moment it resolves, so there is no losing FP character at all.
Fixed: - If a character is removed from skirmish and not in play anymore, "character loses skirmish" is not triggered for it.
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January 24, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
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« Reply #376 on: January 24, 2012, 02:49:51 PM »
I think Banished triggered appropriately in the Merry, Learned Guide example based on this: "any character removed during his or her skirmish is a losing character, even if that character's side eventually wins." Even though he's not in play anymore, a companion still lost a skirmish.

January 25, 2012, 12:40:23 AM
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« Reply #377 on: January 25, 2012, 12:40:23 AM »
Seems you're right and Banished should trigger in such case even before skirmish resolves (which doesn't make much difference here, but could make it when a character is removed and replaced by another one, for example using Pippin, Brave Decoy's ability).

January 25, 2012, 07:50:51 AM
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« Reply #378 on: January 25, 2012, 07:50:51 AM »
Seems you're right and Banished should trigger in such case even before skirmish resolves (which doesn't make much difference here, but could make it when a character is removed and replaced by another one, for example using Pippin, Brave Decoy's ability).
Rolled back the change. I've misread the rules when replying to the first post about it from the original poster.
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January 26, 2012, 06:02:26 AM
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January 26, 2012, 07:04:14 AM
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« Reply #380 on: January 26, 2012, 07:04:14 AM »
The entire Gemp website seems to be down.
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January 26, 2012, 07:16:01 AM
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« Reply #381 on: January 26, 2012, 07:16:01 AM »
The entire Gemp website seems to be down.
Server is up again.
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January 26, 2012, 07:30:01 AM
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« Reply #382 on: January 26, 2012, 07:30:01 AM »
Hi MarcinS, reporting a bug... Trapped and Alone dont work...here is replay: http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Khamul$lykprixrdvmzap6q
Fixed: - Cards that remove keyword bonuses (like "Trapped and Alone") now correctly remove the keyword bonuses.
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January 26, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
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« Reply #383 on: January 26, 2012, 10:31:03 AM »
Just a question...

Shouldn't the card Make Haste allow you to lose initiative and regain it within the same action?  I am referring to its play in conjunction with "initiative loss" conditions like A Light In His Mind or Glimpse of Fate, for example. 

Whenever I play Make Haste, in-game, I never lose initiative because as soon as I play it, usually when I have four cards in hand, I no sooner have four cards again because a hobbit is bounced to my hand.

What's the ruling on this? 

January 26, 2012, 11:46:51 AM
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« Reply #384 on: January 26, 2012, 11:46:51 AM »
It should.

(from CRD)
playing a card
Following is a detailed procedure for playing a
non-site card. (...)
5. Respond to the playing of The Card (and
to losing initiative if necessary). Responses or
triggered actions that respond to the playing of
The Card happen now. If The Card has game
text on it that triggers "When you play..." The
Card, it happens now. Other cards may respond
to the card being played as well. These are
handled in the manner described under actions
and action procedure. If The Card was a Free
People's card and it leaving your hand causes you
to lose initiative, each player may respond to you
losing initiative now.
6. Perform effects of The Card.

So you lose initiative before you perform effects.

January 27, 2012, 02:21:34 AM
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« Reply #385 on: January 27, 2012, 02:21:34 AM »
It should.

(from CRD)
playing a card
Following is a detailed procedure for playing a
non-site card. (...)
5. Respond to the playing of The Card (and
to losing initiative if necessary). Responses or
triggered actions that respond to the playing of
The Card happen now. If The Card has game
text on it that triggers "When you play..." The
Card, it happens now. Other cards may respond
to the card being played as well. These are
handled in the manner described under actions
and action procedure. If The Card was a Free
People's card and it leaving your hand causes you
to lose initiative, each player may respond to you
losing initiative now.
6. Perform effects of The Card.

So you lose initiative before you perform effects.

You should not, returning a hobbit in Make Haste card is a cost (step 3), so done before the check for losing initiative (step 5), unless I understood the rules wrong?
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January 27, 2012, 05:36:41 AM
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« Reply #386 on: January 27, 2012, 05:36:41 AM »
Ah, you're right, sorry :) I didn't remember the card and thought it's an effect.

January 27, 2012, 09:48:10 AM
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« Reply #387 on: January 27, 2012, 09:48:10 AM »
the free peoples player can use  watch-tower of cirith ungol to exert an (orc) minion to discard a card at random from his own hand. This should not happen because the orc isn't the free peoples minion.

January 27, 2012, 05:23:49 PM
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« Reply #388 on: January 27, 2012, 05:23:49 PM »
the free peoples player can use  watch-tower of cirith ungol to exert an (orc) minion to discard a card at random from his own hand. This should not happen because the orc isn't the free peoples minion.
Fixed: - "Watch-tower of Cirith Ungol" now allows to exert only YOUR minion.
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January 28, 2012, 06:03:47 AM
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« Reply #389 on: January 28, 2012, 06:03:47 AM »
arod doesn't give extra resistance to gimli BOG