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May 22, 2012, 06:01:21 AM
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« Reply #945 on: May 22, 2012, 06:01:21 AM »
Morgul Spearman's text activates even during the fierce assignment phase. It should only activate if he is actually able to be assigned.
FP player can just choose not to exert it...

Well, yes, but the simpler solution is to not have that text activate during fierce assignments.
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May 22, 2012, 06:10:14 AM
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« Reply #946 on: May 22, 2012, 06:10:14 AM »
Morgul Spearman's text activates even during the fierce assignment phase. It should only activate if he is actually able to be assigned.
FP player can just choose not to exert it...

Well, yes, but the simpler solution is to not have that text activate during fierce assignments.
It's only simpler, if you look at the one situation you had in a game. But it's never so easy, if you want to make a general solution. First of all - there are 3 types of assignments in game - normal, fierce and extra. Second of all, if this minion somehow gets Fierce, it should be possible to exert character to assign, and the list of "extra circumstances" will grow and grow.

At the moment solution is simple and elegant, though requires a bit of brains, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
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May 23, 2012, 01:48:48 AM
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« Reply #947 on: May 23, 2012, 01:48:48 AM »
There is a problem with King Sealed league.

Games were changed to Movie format, so that FotR Enquea can be played. But because of this Movie X-list is in effect, banning Gondorian Captain (which makes it hard to use knights from Pippin SoG starter). Is it possible to make something to have both Captain and Enquea playable (and generally to have sealed deck games allow all cards people find in their packs).

May 23, 2012, 03:02:10 AM
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« Reply #948 on: May 23, 2012, 03:02:10 AM »
There is a problem with King Sealed league.

Games were changed to Movie format, so that FotR Enquea can be played. But because of this Movie X-list is in effect, banning Gondorian Captain (which makes it hard to use knights from Pippin SoG starter). Is it possible to make something to have both Captain and Enquea playable (and generally to have sealed deck games allow all cards people find in their packs).
So you want me to change the format for sealed events, to no X-list, no R-list, Ring-bearer skirmish can be cancelled. Or what exactly?
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May 23, 2012, 07:50:16 AM
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« Reply #949 on: May 23, 2012, 07:50:16 AM »
Ulaire Otsea, Black-mantled Wraith gives Shadow player the choice which action will happen, FP player should have this choice.

May 23, 2012, 07:56:59 AM
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« Reply #950 on: May 23, 2012, 07:56:59 AM »
Ulaire Otsea, Black-mantled Wraith gives Shadow player the choice which action will happen, FP player should have this choice.
I think it's right the way it is at the moment, if it was the FP player who would be choosing, the text would probably be: "make the Free People player to choose, do A or do B". The text gives the shadow player a choice of two effects: making the FP player exert Ring-bound companion twice, or making him return an unbound character to his or her hand.
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May 23, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
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« Reply #951 on: May 23, 2012, 12:24:31 PM »
New Strength Came Now can pump any Man - it should work only with a [Raider] Man.

May 23, 2012, 02:19:09 PM
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« Reply #952 on: May 23, 2012, 02:19:09 PM »
New Strength Came Now can pump any Man - it should work only with a [Raider] Man.
Fixed (after restart):
- "New Strength Came Now" now allows to add Strength only to a RAIDER Man.
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May 23, 2012, 09:12:01 PM
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« Reply #953 on: May 23, 2012, 09:12:01 PM »
Ulaire Otsea, Black-mantled Wraith gives Shadow player the choice which action will happen, FP player should have this choice.
I think it's right the way it is at the moment, if it was the FP player who would be choosing, the text would probably be: "make the Free People player to choose, do A or do B". The text gives the shadow player a choice of two effects: making the FP player exert Ring-bound companion twice, or making him return an unbound character to his or her hand.

FP gets to choose which action will occur, not the Shadow player.
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May 24, 2012, 12:08:33 AM
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« Reply #954 on: May 24, 2012, 12:08:33 AM »
At least at the time when I posted it did not work this way. I was FP player, had Frodo with 4 vitality but got no choice of exerting him twice, had to return a companion to hand. My opponent said he was given the choice.

May 24, 2012, 01:22:29 AM
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« Reply #955 on: May 24, 2012, 01:22:29 AM »
Ulaire Otsea, Black-mantled Wraith gives Shadow player the choice which action will happen, FP player should have this choice.
I think it's right the way it is at the moment, if it was the FP player who would be choosing, the text would probably be: "make the Free People player to choose, do A or do B". The text gives the shadow player a choice of two effects: making the FP player exert Ring-bound companion twice, or making him return an unbound character to his or her hand.

FP can choose what to do.Otherwise it would be just exert or return companion without even mentioning FP player.

May 24, 2012, 02:06:26 AM
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« Reply #956 on: May 24, 2012, 02:06:26 AM »
Ulaire Otsea, Black-mantled Wraith gives Shadow player the choice which action will happen, FP player should have this choice.
I think it's right the way it is at the moment, if it was the FP player who would be choosing, the text would probably be: "make the Free People player to choose, do A or do B". The text gives the shadow player a choice of two effects: making the FP player exert Ring-bound companion twice, or making him return an unbound character to his or her hand.

FP gets to choose which action will occur, not the Shadow player.
So what would be the wording of a card, where the Shadow player would be the one to choose the option, and the FP only choosing what to exert or return to hand?
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May 24, 2012, 03:03:10 AM
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« Reply #957 on: May 24, 2012, 03:03:10 AM »
i think it would be something like:

"Regroup: If you have initiative, discard Ulaire Otsea to make the Free Peoples player exert a Ring-bound companion twice or to make the Free Peoples player return and unbound companion to his or her hand."
here it is clear that the shadow player chooses between the exertion and the discard

if it were:
"Regroup: If you have initiative, discard Ulaire Otsea to exert a Ring-bound companion twice or to make the Free Peoples player return and unbound companion to his or her hand."
if this would be stated the shadow player can also chose which of both actions and he can chose which ringbound companion to exert.

now the cards states:
"Regroup: If you have initiative, discard Ulaire Otsea to make the Free Peoples player exert a Ring-bound companion twice or return and unbound companion to his or her hand."
so this means the freep player can chose which of both actions to choose

at least that's how i always used the card anyway

May 24, 2012, 03:31:50 AM
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« Reply #958 on: May 24, 2012, 03:31:50 AM »
All right.

Fixed (after restart):
- "Úlairë Otsëa, Black-Mantled Wraith" now gives the option of choice to the FP player, rather than Shadow player.
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May 24, 2012, 05:19:43 AM
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« Reply #959 on: May 24, 2012, 05:19:43 AM »
So you want me to change the format for sealed events, to no X-list, no R-list, Ring-bearer skirmish can be cancelled. Or what exactly?
I think no X-list, no R-list is OK. It's not likely to pull off some crazy broken combo in sealed. Ring-bearer skirmish can be cancelled - I think we can live with it so far, if a way to abuse it is found, it can be dealt with later. The only one I see so far is Daddy Twofoot with No Visitors, but this needs set 15 and I don't think we'd have a sealed deck tournament with this set, as set 17 starters are complete mess and set 18 starters don't exist.

I think before someone finds a reason to do it in another way, sealed deck rules should be: if you have a card in your tournament collection, you can play it.