LotR TCG Wiki → Card Sets:  All 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 → Forums:  TLHH CC

Author Topic: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here  (Read 378066 times)

0 Members and 7 Guests are viewing this topic.

January 01, 2013, 11:06:11 AM
Reply #1455

MarcinS

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1060
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1455 on: January 01, 2013, 11:06:11 AM »
edit: checked the game again, I used shadowplay already in the move before (moved twice). Imho "(once per turn)" relates to to "exert THAT minion" not general to all minions. So exert the minion that has been played but only once, meaning you can't exert a hobbit again to wound the same minion.

If it relates to all minions it should not be activated by gemp more than once every turn...
No, each minion is played only once, so there would be no way to exert it twice, even if it had no "once per turn" clause on it. Therefore the "once per turn" refers to the exertion of any minion.

You are incorrect, you can use the Shadowplay for each minion played (pay the cost), but you should be able to exert a minion only once per turn. I can't make it not activate on any minion played after it's used, because there might be an advantage to exerting a hobbit and FP player should be able to do that, without getting the Shadowplay effect.
New/old way to play Lord of the Rings online.
Give Gemp-LotR a try.
All sets are finished

January 01, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
Reply #1456

MarcinS

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1060
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1456 on: January 01, 2013, 11:13:42 AM »
Firefox works pretty good, too.

Bug report:

I had played Mount Doom at Site 4. My opponent, at Site 2, played Well-Traveled, and Gemp allowed him to replace Mount Doom with Anduin Banks.

Replay link:

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=sgtdraino$x17wlyoejuaec5m6
I believe that is correct behaviour. Mount Doom text starts working after first player enters the site (makes it active) till the end of the game. Since you just played the Mount Doom, but not entered it, you have not activated its text, therefore your opponent was able to replace it.
New/old way to play Lord of the Rings online.
Give Gemp-LotR a try.
All sets are finished

January 01, 2013, 02:04:56 PM
Reply #1457

radry

  • *
  • Information Offline
  • Orc
  • Posts: 28
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1457 on: January 01, 2013, 02:04:56 PM »
edit: checked the game again, I used shadowplay already in the move before (moved twice). Imho "(once per turn)" relates to to "exert THAT minion" not general to all minions. So exert the minion that has been played but only once, meaning you can't exert a hobbit again to wound the same minion.

If it relates to all minions it should not be activated by gemp more than once every turn...
No, each minion is played only once, so there would be no way to exert it twice, even if it had no "once per turn" clause on it. Therefore the "once per turn" refers to the exertion of any minion.

You are incorrect, you can use the Shadowplay for each minion played (pay the cost), but you should be able to exert a minion only once per turn. I can't make it not activate on any minion played after it's used, because there might be an advantage to exerting a hobbit and FP player should be able to do that, without getting the Shadowplay effect.

Ok, but having multiple Shadowplay on the table means I could use it more than once, right?

January 01, 2013, 02:34:16 PM
Reply #1458

hsiale

  • ****
  • Information Offline
  • Marksman
  • Posts: 506
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1458 on: January 01, 2013, 02:34:16 PM »
Each copy once.

It would be nice if you could somehow see which copies of non-unique cards providing a limited bonus have already been used (Shadowplay, TMAYOD and similar). For example ones already used can be highlighted in a different colour.

January 01, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
Reply #1459

bibfortuna25

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1531
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1459 on: January 01, 2013, 02:51:51 PM »
edit: checked the game again, I used shadowplay already in the move before (moved twice). Imho "(once per turn)" relates to to "exert THAT minion" not general to all minions. So exert the minion that has been played but only once, meaning you can't exert a hobbit again to wound the same minion.

If it relates to all minions it should not be activated by gemp more than once every turn...
No, each minion is played only once, so there would be no way to exert it twice, even if it had no "once per turn" clause on it. Therefore the "once per turn" refers to the exertion of any minion.

You are incorrect, you can use the Shadowplay for each minion played (pay the cost), but you should be able to exert a minion only once per turn. I can't make it not activate on any minion played after it's used, because there might be an advantage to exerting a hobbit and FP player should be able to do that, without getting the Shadowplay effect.

If you have multiple Shadowplays in play, you can exert that minion up to the number of copies of Shadowplay you have. For example, 2 copies of Shadowplay and your opponent plays a 3-vitality minion. Both copies of Shadowplay can activate, and at the cost of 2 exertions on your Hobbits, will exert that minion 2 times. But that uses up the "once per turn" on each copy of Shadowplay you used.
All cards do what they say, no more, no less.

January 01, 2013, 10:07:07 PM
Reply #1460

Jamacus

  • *
  • Information Offline
  • Goblin
  • Posts: 8
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1460 on: January 01, 2013, 10:07:07 PM »
In this game.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Jamacus$gzehgp9ghmjr1h9j

Pavaise was discarded by For the Mark twice.  Both times it was not stacked on Countless Companies

I'm fairly certain it should stack because it reads, when it is discarded from play. 

January 02, 2013, 04:29:28 AM
Reply #1461

MarcinS

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1060
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1461 on: January 02, 2013, 04:29:28 AM »
In this game.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Jamacus$gzehgp9ghmjr1h9j

Pavaise was discarded by For the Mark twice.  Both times it was not stacked on Countless Companies

I'm fairly certain it should stack because it reads, when it is discarded from play. 
Fixed (after restart):
- "Countless Companies" should now correctly be able to "catch" possessions.
New/old way to play Lord of the Rings online.
Give Gemp-LotR a try.
All sets are finished

January 02, 2013, 04:50:27 AM
Reply #1462

bibfortuna25

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1531
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1462 on: January 02, 2013, 04:50:27 AM »
When Legolas, Elven Comrade is used, the FP is then instructed to select a companion. This selection seems redundant to me, as there is only ever one companion skirmishing at a time, so Legolas should automatically select the appropriate companion and whatever minion he is skirmishing. Of course, if that companion happens to be fighting more than 1 minion, then it would be necessary to choose the minion, but it shouldn't ever be necessary to choose the companion.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2013, 04:14:43 PM by bibfortuna25 »
All cards do what they say, no more, no less.

January 02, 2013, 07:51:29 AM
Reply #1463

sgtdraino

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1041
  • Ranger of Ecthelion
    • Facebook
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1463 on: January 02, 2013, 07:51:29 AM »
I believe that is correct behaviour. Mount Doom text starts working after first player enters the site (makes it active) till the end of the game. Since you just played the Mount Doom, but not entered it, you have not activated its text, therefore your opponent was able to replace it.

I stand corrected.
"I would have followed you, my brother... my captain... my king." - Boromir

January 02, 2013, 10:53:14 AM
Reply #1464

bign19

  • *
  • Information Offline
  • Goblin
  • Posts: 16
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1464 on: January 02, 2013, 10:53:14 AM »
In the Movie block tournament a ringbearer skrimish was cancelled at site 6. Rb skrimishes cannot be cancelled in this block.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=bign19$lxo911hqva8jhr27

January 03, 2013, 02:37:03 AM
Reply #1465

MarcinS

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1060
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1465 on: January 03, 2013, 02:37:03 AM »
When Legolas, Elven Comrade is used, the FP is then instructed to select a companion. This selection seems redundant to me, as there is only ever one companion skirmishing at a time, so Legolas should automatically select the appropriate companion and whatever minion he is skirmishing. Of course, if that companion happens to be fighting more than 1 minion, then it would be necessary to choose the minion, but it shouldn't ever be necessary to choose the companion.
Fixed (after restart):
- "Legolas, Elven Comrade" now should automatically allow to choose a minion skirmishing an unbound companion.
New/old way to play Lord of the Rings online.
Give Gemp-LotR a try.
All sets are finished

January 03, 2013, 02:46:03 AM
Reply #1466

MarcinS

  • *****
  • Information Offline
  • Knight
  • Posts: 1060
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1466 on: January 03, 2013, 02:46:03 AM »
In the Movie block tournament a ringbearer skrimish was cancelled at site 6. Rb skrimishes cannot be cancelled in this block.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=bign19$lxo911hqva8jhr27
"Movie Sealed" is a name of the league, not the definition of the format. The information about format is displayed, when you click on the blue "Limited" text on league screen, and it states that Ring-bearer skirmishes can be cancelled.

For further information - Ring-bearer skirmish cancelling was forbidden when Reflections was introduced, due to how it interacted with the new Ring-bearers (especially Galadriel). You do not have Reflections cards in that league, until Serie 4. When hsiale contacted me on creating this league, he did not specified if Ring-bearer skirmishes could be cancellable, this might change, if he requests it.
New/old way to play Lord of the Rings online.
Give Gemp-LotR a try.
All sets are finished

January 03, 2013, 09:34:59 AM
Reply #1467

Zatzir

  • *
  • Information Offline
  • Goblin
  • Posts: 9
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1467 on: January 03, 2013, 09:34:59 AM »
As posted in Gemp Chat:
Question: Yesterday I played "Fires and Foul Fumes" but only got the option to stack one of the four discarded orc on "Gnawing, Biting, Hacking, Burning". Is this how it should play?

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Zatzir$3zhog17jidwnz4ek

January 03, 2013, 12:12:50 PM
Reply #1468

janjetina

  • *
  • Information Offline
  • Orc
  • Posts: 40
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1468 on: January 03, 2013, 12:12:50 PM »
There is a bug related to the interaction of the following cards:
Frodo, Courteous Halfling and The Palantir of Orthanc.

Frodo disables Shadow cards from discarding the cards in FP player's hand and from the top of the draw deck.

Palantir reveals the cards in the FP player's hand and places them at the top of the FP draw deck.

So, Palntir does not discard cards.

Given that, Frodo's text should not affect the Palantir.

However, in Gemp, Frodo precludes the use of Palantir. I think that it's a bug.



January 03, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
Reply #1469

mardukra

  • **
  • Information Offline
  • Uruk-hai
  • Posts: 73
Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #1469 on: January 03, 2013, 10:46:43 PM »
Sometimes muster doesn't trigger for Captain of the Nine Riders unless I'm missing something.

It happened at site 3 and again at site 6.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Marduk$erkhrv5z5mhs7pno