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June 28, 2020, 01:05:45 AM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2505 on: June 28, 2020, 01:05:45 AM »
Easterling Guard tried to use his ability after self-assigning with Slow-Kindled Courage but couldn't exert or add a burden.

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June 29, 2020, 11:50:23 AM
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« Reply #2506 on: June 29, 2020, 11:50:23 AM »
15S190 East Wall of Rohan is erroneously listed as Uncommon in Collections.

June 29, 2020, 01:00:43 PM
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« Reply #2507 on: June 29, 2020, 01:00:43 PM »
That is probably due to TLHH's own database being wrong on it.  I found a number of cards recently that were mis-labeled as S or were S cards mis-labeled as other rarities.
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July 11, 2020, 09:12:29 AM
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« Reply #2508 on: July 11, 2020, 09:12:29 AM »
Gandalf, Stormcrow is incorrectly named Gandalf, Stormcraw.
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July 20, 2020, 11:00:08 AM
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« Reply #2509 on: July 20, 2020, 11:00:08 AM »
I was unable to wound a minion (it did not give me the response pop up box) at site 7 (skip archery phase). http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=CoS$wmc3okjdmpb9j5ql

July 21, 2020, 10:58:38 AM
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« Reply #2510 on: July 21, 2020, 10:58:38 AM »
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=RJH777$hq526b7dtl2o2alo

I think this is a bug - at site 4 (I think) opponent plays a morgul brute and I choose to prevent the burden by wounding Boromir. I then prevent that wound with Sapling of the white tree and it then added the burden anyway and triggered gates of the dead city etc.

Could be wrong but surely the fact I prevented the wound is irrelevant and they're separate actions? I'd get it if I couldn't take wounds full stop ala consorting with wizards but would have thought this would work the same way as gimli's helm and threats?

July 21, 2020, 12:08:15 PM
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« Reply #2511 on: July 21, 2020, 12:08:15 PM »
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=RJH777$hq526b7dtl2o2alo

I think this is a bug - at site 4 (I think) opponent plays a morgul brute and I choose to prevent the burden by wounding Boromir. I then prevent that wound with Sapling of the white tree and it then added the burden anyway and triggered gates of the dead city etc.

Could be wrong but surely the fact I prevented the wound is irrelevant and they're separate actions? I'd get it if I couldn't take wounds full stop ala consorting with wizards but would have thought this would work the same way as gimli's helm and threats?

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If something happens to prevent one effect which in turn would have prevented a second effect, the second effect is performed.

Morgul Destroyer is played.("When you play this minion, you may spot a Nazgûl to add 2 threats. The Free Peoples player may wound the Ring-bearer to prevent this.") The Free Peoples player wounds the Ring-bearer to prevent the threats from being added. The Free Peoples player then discards Sapling of the White Tree. ("Response: If a Gondor Man is about to take a wound, discard this artifact to prevent that.") Because Sapling has prevented the effect (a wound) that would have prevented Morgul Destroyer's effect, the threats are now added.See also discard, modifier, twilight cost.

In general you shouldn't choose to prevent prevention costs.  There are a handful of exceptions, such as Strength of Spirit which specifically words itself strangely so that it doesn't actually prevent the cost being paid. 
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July 22, 2020, 03:20:06 AM
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« Reply #2512 on: July 22, 2020, 03:20:06 AM »
Well fair enough!

Seems like an odd one to me/a bit unfair but rules is rules. I'll park it under the threats triggering promise keeping section - I know why it's correct but it still seems really stupid that it works that way!

July 22, 2020, 07:03:50 AM
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« Reply #2513 on: July 22, 2020, 07:03:50 AM »
The way I've always interpreted the rule is as follows: the only way to prevent the burden is to wound the ring bearer. In the end you didn't wound the ring bearer, so you didn't pay the cost required to prevent the addition of the burden. Therefore the burden gets added. As mentioned, Strength of Spirit is worded perfectly: you did still exert (it should trigger Demoralised etc) but the act of exerting did not require you to place the token.

The one time where it gets a little hazy is where the word 'instead' is used instead of 'prevent' (mainly the One Ring adding burdens 'instead' of wounds). I believe that Decipher intended Faramir, Bearer of Quality to be able to use the ring to pay the cost of his action (as it would surely have required an exertion rather than a wound otherwise). But I think Gemp rightly does not allow that: the wound was not placed, so the cost wasn't met. If that did count as a wound, Promise Keeping would be so much better than it already is!

July 26, 2020, 11:37:04 AM
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« Reply #2514 on: July 26, 2020, 11:37:04 AM »
Not game logic related, but can anything be done about the sound alert indicating that your table is joined? It used to play for me about 80% of the time, but lately it has been down to sporadic 10-15%. I was told in the lobby that modern browers block it, but is there perharps a way to "whitelist" a specific site for sounds? Ot maybe tweak something on Gemp side?

July 27, 2020, 05:14:25 AM
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« Reply #2515 on: July 27, 2020, 05:14:25 AM »
The Hobbit: If It Loses offers th FREE Peoples played to add a burden in additon to the Shadow player.

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July 28, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
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« Reply #2516 on: July 28, 2020, 08:15:14 AM »
In 2 consecutive games, I played Berserker Torch. I toiled so I could afford to play them. in one game I only had 2 twilight and toiled 3 times to make it free. In the second game I had 1 twilight and toiled twice to make it 1 cost. In both cases the minions exerted but the torch did not play. It just disappeared from my hand. I did play it once without needing to toil and it worked fine since I had plenty of twilight.
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Game 2: (Site 4)
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July 29, 2020, 11:58:50 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2517 on: July 29, 2020, 11:58:50 PM »
Sauron's Defenses triggered on every one of my opponent's turns, even though he had no companions in the dead pile. I had three companions in my dead pile, which the card may mistakenly be recognizing.

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August 13, 2020, 05:20:06 AM
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« Reply #2518 on: August 13, 2020, 05:20:06 AM »
Desperate Defense of the Ring triggers per each assignment action, rather than at the end of each assignment phase as it should based on the Comprehensive Rules 4.0 (interestingly, this may have been in compliance with earlier rules). See site 9 here:
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August 15, 2020, 03:52:07 PM
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« Reply #2519 on: August 15, 2020, 03:52:07 PM »
I don't know whether this was reported before or if it's a new thing, but Dammed Gate-Stream can play Clever Hobbits from deck, which it shouldn't be able to do.
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