New tread regarding Amsterdam tournament 7th february 2009

[Disco Stu]

what cards that are on the standard x-list are not on the movie block x-list?
is galadriel, lady redeemed allowed in movie block? is legolas, dauntless hunter? shire countryside? etc
please tell me.

but i'm sure, gondorian captain is not.

[Smeagollum]

All info about errata can be found in:

• Comprehensive Rules 4.0. Useful as a reference guide, this rulebook goes into fine detail about each phase, contains a glossary and includes errata for cards through King Block. Check here first to settle a rules question or dispute.
• Current Rulings Document (08/13/07). This is a supplement to the Comprehensive Rules and includes errata from Shadows on as well as formats information. Be familiar with the T&D fixes!

About x-ed and restricted:

OPEN & BLOCK FORMAT
RESTRICTED LIST
No more than one copy of each of these cards may be included in a deck for an Open or Block format tournament.
FORCES OF MORDOR   1 C 248
STEADFAST CHAMPION   7 U 49
MEMORIES OF DARKNESS   10 U 2
MORDOR FIEND   10 C 91
STRANGE-LOOKING MEN   11 R 100
ORKISH SMITH   11 C 132

I hope this will make things clear! .... I don't see anything x-ed..... Yes that's correct

[Elrohir]

  So I may play Galadriel, Lady of the golden Wood?

[Smeagollum]

I don't see on the x-list. Do you?

[Disco Stu]

that´s the point. i don´t see an x-list for another format but standard and expanded. an x-list for movie block is missing.

[Smeagollum]

that´s the point. i don´t see an x-list for another format but standard and expanded. an x-list for movie block is missing.

You are correct!

There's no x-list for movieblock as it is a blockformat and there's no x-list for blockformat There are only errata's

[Ringbearer]

Isnt it common to use the X-list as it was before Shadows released?

[Pepin The Breve]

  Sorry to get into the issue folks, but don´t use x-list for movie block is pretty insane! Galadriel, LR or LoL, Savagery, Saruman, Agression and all that stuff is just too crazy for me (not to mention our friend Mordor Fiend).

   Usually what people do is use the list before shadows release adding Galadriel, LR to it. Some people that i play with prefer even the expanded list that forbid some other powerfull cards lke Sam, SoH or The Shire Countryside.

   For the sake of the fun i recomend you to use some kind of x-list for movie block. I even don´t like block format (Fellowship, TT, RoTK) cause they allow you to play with some broken cards and that kinda make almost all players play with the same decks, or at least it narrows a lot the possibilities.

   I know i will not be at the tourney but that´s my advice for you people.

   See ya!

[Elessar's Socks]

"Movie Block" maybe could've been named something else, but that's what stuck. It's simply what the game was like before Shadows came out. At that time the game was using the X-List here, for better or worse. Basically the format is frozen in time.

Can the X-List be revised for a better play experience? Up to you guys. It won't be the same "Movie Block," and more to the point it might catch some people using the old list by surprise--but if balance is more of a concern over authenticity, why not. It'd be interesting to see how the field changes.

[Smeagollum]

Only thing is I don't have any crd from pre-shadows. And if I remember correctly: Lr was banned afer set 10. Mordor fiend was even banned before it was released. Sam soh, was banned after 10, Agression likewise, Savagery I don't remember, Saruman round rotk-release. Shire countryside was banned afer set 10. Bill Ferny was banned with the release of set 9. Legolas DH was banned with the release of set 11.

Savagery, Saruman and Agression can be a problem within the first 2 rounds, but then again there's enough to counter them. And actually I thought it was fun to see them played and to see them played again!
Actually I 'll play a dauntlesshunterdeck with Shire countryside... so more reason for no x-list

Mordor Fiend can only played once by the way! Maybe that would be a good idea for Saruman and Agression. But I leave that up to the people.

[Smeagollum]

hmm, what if we say that we allow just to restrict them instead of banning them?.

Movie Block
-Sets 1-8, 10 allowed (some variants allow set 9).
-Orriginal X-List
Aggression
Aragorn, Heir to the White City
Bill the Pony
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Flaming Brand
Forces of Mordor
Frying Pan
Galadriel, Lady of Light
Gondorian Captain
Horn of Boromir
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
No Stranger to the Shadows
Ottar, Man of Laketown
The Palantir of Orthanc
Relics of Moria
Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
Steadfast Champion
Sting
Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur

Please decide before tomorrow!

[Disco Stu]

your x-list:
Aggression
Aragorn, Heir to the White City
Bill the Pony
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Flaming Brand
Forces of Mordor
Frying Pan
Galadriel, Lady of Light
Gondorian Captain
Horn of Boromir
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
No Stranger to the Shadows
Ottar, Man of Laketown
The Palantir of Orthanc
Relics of Moria
Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
Steadfast Champion
Sting
Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur

my additions:
X Galadriel, Lady Redeemed
R Bill Ferny
X Sam, Son of Hamfast
X Saruman´s Snows

[Gil-Estel]

Agreed wit Disco Stu

[Mc Tono]

I`m sorry guys but I simply don`t have the time to keep on changing my decks!!!!!!
PLEASE  stop the altering of the rules. As you know small changes can make a huge difference.

I`m sort of glad I check this forum every now and then but I have put very very many hours in beckbuilding the last 2 months and buying and trading cards I think I would need. I think "it would be wise my friends " not to change anything anymore. I speak for all the players that haven`t got all the time of the world and those who will be very disappointed in 3 days to hear that the deck they built only a week ago isn`t allowed!

I.m.h.o. You can`t (shouldn`t) change the rules of a tournament which is going to be played in 3 days!

I beg y`all. seriously!!

[Smeagollum]

I`m sorry guys but I simply don`t have the time to keep on changing my decks!!!!!!
PLEASE  stop the altering of the rules. As you know small changes can make a huge difference.

I`m sort of glad I check this forum every now and then but I have put very very many hours in beckbuilding the last 2 months and buying and trading cards I think I would need. I think "it would be wise my friends " not to change anything anymore. I speak for all the players that haven`t got all the time of the world and those who will be very disappointed in 3 days to hear that the deck they built only a week ago isn`t allowed!

I.m.h.o. You can`t (shouldn`t) change the rules of a tournament which is going to be played in 3 days!

I beg y`all. seriously!!

I actually agree with you Mackie!

I didn't suggest an x-list. I sugested a restricted list. Come on, there are people who would like to play old cards and cards they haven't played before. And be honest against everything there is something to counter. I can agree to a restricted list but not to a x-list.