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March 01, 2011, 10:34:38 AM
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Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« on: March 01, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »
Since we have allowed Mr. Underhill to be played in any deck that allows Reluctant Adventurer, I was thinking we could also add other Promos from that edition. Namely 0P62 - 0P66. Those are:

Gimli, Dwarven Delegate
Arwen, Maiden of Rivendell
Gandalf, Stormcrow
Boromir, Steward's Heir
Eomer, Forthwith Banished

It is much easier than creating new cards and provides us with the same effect: increased deckbuilding and playing options. None of those cards seems too powerful, they don't involve any post-MD mechanics and they could be a really nice addition to Movie Block. The only thing that makes them different from other Movie Block companions is their lack of signets.

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March 01, 2011, 10:38:47 AM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 10:38:47 AM »
None of those cards seems too powerful, they don't involve any post-MD mechanics and they could be a really nice addition to Movie Block. The only thing that makes them different from other Movie Block companions is their lack of signets.

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March 01, 2011, 10:48:19 AM
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 10:48:19 AM »
I agree, as well. I wouldn't know, why anyone would use gandalf, stormcrow, but the others are perfectly usable. Besides, the lack of signets could be explained.

- Arwen does not have one, because this version could be seen as a "pre-gorn-infatuation" arwen; hence no signet

- Gimli is still a delegate and has not shown his colors yet; hence no signet

- Gandalf is a blank, so there is no place for a signet, either.

- Boromir is a self-centered minas tirith-jingoistic "§$%&, so, if any, he should have a boromir signet!

- Eomer is banished, so why should he have a signet???

Anyway, just a couple of random thoughts. Feel free to delete or move.
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March 01, 2011, 12:56:36 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 12:56:36 PM »
- Boromir is a self-centered minas tirith-jingoistic "§$%&, so, if any, he should have a boromir signet!

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March 01, 2011, 01:05:11 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 01:05:11 PM »
Now THIS is a nice move.

March 01, 2011, 01:41:20 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 01:41:20 PM »
Eomer seems a bit too powerful to me. Hmmmm... :-k

March 01, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 02:03:52 PM »
Eomer seems a bit too powerful to me. Hmmmm... :-k

Why? He is definitely not more powerful than Eomer, TMoR and should he be allowed, I think that TMoR will still be more used by far. The only slightly more powerful combination involving Eomer, Forthwith Banished is having a starting fellowship comprised of Eowyn (or another [Rohan] comp), Eomer, Forthwith Banished and a hobbit (probably Merry, Swordthain).
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March 01, 2011, 04:17:28 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 04:17:28 PM »
The only slightly more powerful combination involving Eomer, Forthwith Banished is having a starting fellowship comprised of Eowyn (or another [Rohan] comp), Eomer, Forthwith Banished and a hobbit (probably Merry, Swordthain).

Ah, but that's what I mean. Pretty nice companion for only [1]!

March 01, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 04:27:49 PM »
I am unsure of this, we move rather fast with proposal after proposal, and the cards seem unneccesary to add. They are (IIRC) from a period after movie, and they donot add value to movie block. I rather see the TLHH movieblock moretowards Deciphermovie, just adressing the bad parts Decipher movie has. Absence of these promos is not among the bad parts of movie.

March 01, 2011, 04:47:22 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 04:47:22 PM »
Ah, but that's what I mean. Pretty nice companion for only [1]!

Yeah, but not much else. He is not as strong as Eomer, TMoR and having him enhance just one type of deck doesn't make him OP.

They are (IIRC) from a period after movie, and they donot add value to movie block.

We are on our way of creating virtual cards (mostly for Movie Block). How is this much different? I see it only as a much easier way to add a few cards. It's not like we're talking about entire sets, just 5 cards that will in no way diminish the playing experience, but have a good chance of enhancing it.

Should any of those cards prove OP in some combo (although I doubt they will), we can always reevaluate it and ban it.
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March 01, 2011, 04:53:37 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 04:53:37 PM »
I agree with hrcho.  Let's give this stuff a try. We can always reevaluate it in the future once players get a chance to actually try it for a while and decide for themselves.

March 01, 2011, 05:32:33 PM
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 05:32:33 PM »
Yeah, but not much else.

Let's compare with other [1] cost companions that have little going for them...

Ordulus
Lorien Elf
Dwarf Guard

...and last, but not least, the hobbitses.

Typical Strength 7 Vitality 3 companions usually cost [3], such as Alcarin, Faramir, and Boromir. :P

On the other hand, the power creep is pretty typical for Decipher at the time. Glorfindel, Revealed in Wrath for [2] -- are you kidding?! (Yes, I do use him in one deck).
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March 01, 2011, 06:00:15 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 06:00:15 PM »
Let's compare with other [1] cost companions that have little going for them...

Ordulus
Lorien Elf
Dwarf Guard

Those are some nondescript characters and this is Eomer. He should be stronger. But as I said, you don't get that many options with him. You have to spot a [Rohan] companion for Eomer to cost [1] and since there are no [Rohan] Ring-bearers, that leaves you with a limited choice so you can't really use him everywhere as you would Galadriel, LR for example. Next, he needs a lot of help to win skirmishes and ultimately to survive. With a hand weapon, he is a strength 9 companion which is not bad, but more often than not it's not enough.

As I already said, many player's first choice will still be Eomer, TMoR and occasionally Rohirrim Captain for those who wanna go Valiant.
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March 01, 2011, 06:30:31 PM
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Re: Allowing certain Promos in Movie Block
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 06:30:31 PM »
Glorfindel, Revealed in Wrath for [2] -- are you kidding?! (Yes, I do use him in one deck).
Hmm... I guess this would mean that each of the "big folk" races would have one cheap power companion to start with.

Dwarves have:  Durin III, Dwarven Lord
Elves have:  Glorfindel, Revealed in Wrath
Men have: Eomer, Forthwith Banished

In specific decks he can be useful, but I still think Eomer, TMoR is the best.
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March 01, 2011, 06:35:33 PM
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 06:35:33 PM »
I've been pushing to leagalize these cards since I started playing. I think it is a lagit move. Don't add anything to them, just legalize them and go. They don't need a signant. even if arwen would be awesome with a gorn sig.
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