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[mardukra]

Foul Creation reads, "...reveal an opponent's hand.", same as Sting, but merely 'looks at opponent's hand.'   
Upon revealing an opponent's hand the contents would be published to the chat log, same as Sting.  Looking at an opponent's hand would not publish the contents but this is not how Foul Creation is worded.

[bibfortuna25]

Wielder of the Flame is bugged. When my opponent played it, the game did not give an indication which companion he intended to make defender +1. In all "do X to prevent Y" situations in this game, Y is chosen before the other player is given the option to do X. For example, when Hate is played, the companion is chosen before the FP is given the option to play Intimidate.

[dmaz]

Wielder of the Flame is bugged. When my opponent played it, the game did not give an indication which companion he intended to make defender +1. In all "do X to prevent Y" situations in this game, Y is chosen before the other player is given the option to do X. For example, when Hate is played, the companion is chosen before the FP is given the option to play Intimidate.

Good catch, Bib, thanks. I just checked out the coding and have an idea of what might be wrong.
Using an event or active condition/possession/artifact to prevent a wound would be bound to the global coding, and follows the correct sequence.

In the coding for Wielder, the preventative action is built into the card, and it looks like its placement calls for the opponent to prevent before targeting. Subtle, but could make all the difference depending on who they choose!

I'm adding this to my working list. The ones I can't make pull requests to fix, I'll get Phallen's help with

[Valtor]

If there are no burdens and only 1 threat, Nine-Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom has no effect - is that correct?

[Dictionary]

I don't believe so. NfFatRoD should remove the threat because it is the action you can most fully complete. If there had been a burden then that would have to be removed instead. But with no burdens removing the threat should be fine.

[Ringbearer]

If there wasnt an effect that prevents threats from being removed. A link is prolly needed.

[Legion]

I've raised this one before. I personally think this is a bug as one out of two threats seems closer to doing "as much as you can" than none out of one burdens.

[Tonio]

Regardless, there is still a bug with WK Deathless Lord

I agree, and the bug is still there 2 years later... The Wk Deathless Lord doesn't allow me to wound an ally because this ally has only one vitality left... So he forces me to exert a companion!

This is really ugly during movie block sealed, where the WK Deathless Lord is your best card in the packs....

Replay example : http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?gameId=78912

[bibfortuna25]

If you have a companion that is capable of being exerted, you have to choose that option if you don't have any allies that have at least 2 vitality remaining.

However, if every companion is exhausted, the WK should allow you to wound an ally even if that ally is exhausted.

[Durin's Heir]

But if every companion is exhausted, and there is an exhausted ally and another one with vitality 2+, you're forced to wound twice the non-exhausted ally. You cannot put 2 wound tokens on an exhausted ally, so the rules prefer the other option (which can be fully completed).

Deathless Lord is very tricky, you must consider all those conditions. Acts just like Nine Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom. Still, he gives you a bonus when killing a companion and that's (almost) always better than nothing!

[Tonio]

Yes, I have read after posting that everyone thinks this is the way Deathless Lord works, and that there is no bug...

This sounds very strange to me, but maybe you're right, seeing what's written in Comprehensive Rule Book...

Deathless Lord was allready a bad card, now it becomes even worse

thanks

[Durin's Heir]

It could have been written in a different, clearer way: "Each time a companion is killed in a skirmish involving a Nazgul, you may spot a Free Peoples character. If is an ally, wound him or her twice. If is a companion, exert him or her." But no, they made it the Decipher way!

Still, pair Deathless Lord with Drawn to its Power and you'll get more benefits. Or with exerting cards (Southron archers) or damage bonuses (Nazgul Sword, Dark Whispers, Stooping to the Kill, LHDWT), or direct assignment (Bill Ferny, Toldea MoM, Between Nazgul and Prey) to get easier kills. With some effort and thinking outside the box, one can create a good Deathless Lord deck!

[Tonio]

Making a good WK Deathless Lord deck is indeed a challenge!

I must confess I only played him in Movie Block sealed because other minions were even worse

[bibfortuna25]

When my opponent was at site 7, I wasn't able to play Lurtz's Battle Cry. I had no Uruks in play, but LBC doesn't require you to spot an Uruk. You should always be able to play pumps even if a valid target isn't in play (e.g., playing Defiance with no Elves has always worked on Gemp).

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=bibfortuna$howjteqkxerhqadh

[Phallen Cassidy]

When my opponent was at site 7, I wasn't able to play Lurtz's Battle Cry. I had no Uruks in play, but LBC doesn't require you to spot an Uruk. You should always be able to play pumps even if a valid target isn't in play (e.g., playing Defiance with no Elves has always worked on Gemp).

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=bibfortuna$howjteqkxerhqadh

Should be fixed as of May 19th