More Virtual Cards (Cruel Caradhras, take II)

[lem0nhead]

Dain has a point though, why bother redoing a card that was fine in the first place? Either make a new one or stick to recreating crap ones.

[Thranduil]

Because it's different. There are certainly situations when I'd want to use the virtual version, and others when I'd prefer the original.

Thranduil

[lem0nhead]

That my point though why not make a new gandalf for one of your new sets called gandalf ally of the shire (you get the idea) instead of offering a direct choice between the same card? men of Harad would never be used so needs re doing. Gandy Fotsf might be used he wasnt that bad.

[DáinIronfoot]

Right...lem0n hit the nail on the head. I can understand redoing outdated or simply lousy cards (which, by modern standards, exist in abundance in the Fellowship block), but redoing cards that are pretty darn good just doesn't make sense to me. Just make it a new card with a new subtitle.

[Thranduil]

You're right, he could be a new Gandalf in a new set, but he could just as easily be a virtual version of any Gandalf and given that there are so many older cards that nobody uses anymore (and Friend of the Shirefolk is one of them for the simple reason that he's outdated), it seems a shame not to take advantage of it.

Thranduil

[Thranduil]

So now we move onto some fellowship Hobbits to complete the Company. I'm feeling some fellowship followers later...

• Merry, Friend to Sam (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Merry is assigned to a skirmish, each other fellowship Hobbit is strength +2.
Skirmish: Exert another fellowship companion to make Merry strength +1.
"'We're coming too! You'll have to send us home tied up in a sack to stop us!'"
1 V 302

• Pippin, Friend to Frodo (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Pippin is assigned to a skirmish, each minion skirmishing another fellowship Hobbit loses gametext keywords.
Skirmish: Discard a tale or pipeweed from play to make a minion skirmishing Pippin strength -1.
"'Baggins? Sure I know a Baggins - Frodo's my second cousin once-removed, on his mother's side, and my third cousin twice-removed on his father's side, if you follow me.'"
1 V 306

• Sam, Proper Poet (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship. Ring-bound.
Each minion skirmishing Sam is strength -1 for each fellowship companion assigned to a skirmish.
While bearing The One Ring, Sam's resistance is -3.
Response: If Frodo dies, make Sam the Ring-bearer.
"'First he was a conspirator, now he's a jester. He'll end up by becoming a wizard - or a warrior!'"
2 V 114

[sickofpalantirs]

So now we move onto some fellowship Hobbits to complete the Company. I'm feeling some fellowship followers later...

• Merry, Friend to Sam (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Merry is assigned to a skirmish, each other fellowship Hobbit is strength +2.
Skirmish: Exert another fellowship companion to make Merry strength +1.
"'We're coming too! You'll have to send us home tied up in a sack to stop us!'"
1 V 302
works for me. maybe or +1 or +2 if that hobbit is sam?

• Pippin, Friend to Frodo (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Pippin is assigned to a skirmish, other fellowship Hobbits cannot take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
Skirmish: Discard a tale or pipeweed from play to make a minion skirmishing Pippin strength -1.
"'Baggins? Sure I know a Baggins - Frodo's my second cousin once-removed, on his mother's side, and my third cousin twice-removed on his father's side, if you follow me.'"
1 V 306
foine

• Sam, Proper Poet (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship. Ring-bound.
Each minion skirmishing Sam is strength -1 for each fellowship companion assigned to a skirmish (-2 if that companion is a Hobbit).
While bearing The One Ring, Sam's resistance is -3.
Response: If Frodo dies, make Sam the Ring-bearer.
"'First he was a conspirator, now he's a jester. He'll end up by becoming a wizard - or a warrior!'"
2 V 114

shouldn't it be OR -2 if that companion.... a fighting sam! nice.

[lem0nhead]

So now we move onto some fellowship Hobbits to complete the Company. I'm feeling some fellowship followers later...

• Merry, Friend to Sam (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Merry is assigned to a skirmish, each other fellowship Hobbit is strength +2.
Skirmish: Exert another fellowship companion to make Merry strength +1.
"'We're coming too! You'll have to send us home tied up in a sack to stop us!'"
1 V 302

Cool.

• Pippin, Friend to Frodo (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Pippin is assigned to a skirmish, other fellowship Hobbits cannot take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
Skirmish: Discard a tale or pipeweed from play to make a minion skirmishing Pippin strength -1.
"'Baggins? Sure I know a Baggins - Frodo's my second cousin once-removed, on his mother's side, and my third cousin twice-removed on his father's side, if you follow me.'"
1 V 306

His first ability is a bit excessive if you ask me. Hes bloody pippin for crying out loud and he somehow stops hobbits from being pounded. Nah.

• Sam, Proper Poet (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship. Ring-bound.
Each minion skirmishing Sam is strength -1 for each fellowship companion assigned to a skirmish (-2 if that companion is a Hobbit).
While bearing The One Ring, Sam's resistance is -3.
Response: If Frodo dies, make Sam the Ring-bearer.
"'First he was a conspirator, now he's a jester. He'll end up by becoming a wizard - or a warrior!'"
2 V 114

His ability is again quite good.

[DáinIronfoot]

• Merry, Friend to Sam (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Merry is assigned to a skirmish, each other fellowship Hobbit is strength +2.
Skirmish: Exert another fellowship companion to make Merry strength +1.
"'We're coming too! You'll have to send us home tied up in a sack to stop us!'"
1 V 302

Looks okay to me.

• Pippin, Friend to Frodo (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship.
While Pippin is assigned to a skirmish, other fellowship Hobbits cannot take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
Skirmish: Discard a tale or pipeweed from play to make a minion skirmishing Pippin strength -1.
"'Baggins? Sure I know a Baggins - Frodo's my second cousin once-removed, on his mother's side, and my third cousin twice-removed on his father's side, if you follow me.'"
1 V 306

Hmmm. I guess it's okay, though awfully powerful. I'd exclude his first ability (and Merry's, come to think of it) from working with the Ring-bearer.

• Sam, Proper Poet (V)
Companion • Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Fellowship. Ring-bound.
Each minion skirmishing Sam is strength -1 for each fellowship companion assigned to a skirmish (or -2 if that companion is a Hobbit).
While bearing The One Ring, Sam's resistance is -3.
Response: If Frodo dies, make Sam the Ring-bearer.
"'First he was a conspirator, now he's a jester. He'll end up by becoming a wizard - or a warrior!'"
2 V 114

I'll throw a line at you that you toss my way all the time: take out the parenthesis, because he's too good with the text therein.

[Thranduil]

Changed the cards. Any problems, feel free to shout (because luckily, you're elsewhere and I can't hear you! )

Well, we've seen the first of our fellowship followers who is:

• Gimli, Son of Glóin (V)
Follower
Str: +2
Fellowship. Aid - exert a fellowship companion.
Bearer is damage +1.
"There was a younger Dwarf at Glóin's side, his son Gimli."
1 V 13

Now here are 2 more:

• Legolas, Son of Thranduil (V)
Follower
Fellowship. Aid - exert a fellowship companion.
Bearer is an archer.
"'Praised be the bow of Galadriel, and the hand and eye of Legolas!… That was a mighty shot in the dark, my friend!'"
3 V 121

• Boromir, Son of Denethor (V)
Follower
Str: +2
Fellowship. Aid - add a burden.
While bearer is a fellowship companion (except Frodo), he cannot be overwhelmed unless his strength is tripled and cannot take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
"'Long has my father, the Steward of Gondor, held the forces of Mordor at bay - by the blood of our people are the lands of others kept safe.'"
1 V 97

[DáinIronfoot]

Changed the cards. Any problems, feel free to shout (because luckily, you're elsewhere and I can't hear you! )

I'm not a big fan of the new Pippin. Resistance isn't much incentive (to me) to risk him in a skirmish most of the time. He's a decent speed bump now, but little else, in my opinion. Perhaps make each minion skirmishing a fellowship Hobbit strength -1?

• Legolas, Son of Thranduil (V)
Follower
Str: +1
Fellowship. Aid - exert a fellowship companion.
Bearer is an archer.
"'Praised be the bow of Galadriel, and the hand and eye of Legolas!… That was a mighty shot in the dark, my friend!'"
3 V 121

Drop the strength bonus and I think he's okay. With it, it's a mite too much. I mean, you're talking about potentially making companions of ANY culture an archer, and that could have some far-reaching consequences. I'm not saying it's broken, I just think the archer alone is plenty.

• Boromir, Son of Denethor (V)
Follower
Str: +2
Fellowship. Aid - add a burden.
While bearer is a fellowship companion, he cannot be overwhelmed unless his strength is tripled and cannot take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
"'Long has my father, the Steward of Gondor, held the forces of Mordor at bay - by the blood of our people are the lands of others kept safe.'"
1 V 97

I'd exclude his text from working with the Ring-bearer, for two reasons: 1.) it makes sense story-wise, and 2.) that kind of RB protection is just SICK, especially since it requires only a burden (which Frodo, the presumptive RB in such a deck, can take plenty of).

[sickofpalantirs]

Now here are 2 more:

• Legolas, Son of Thranduil (V)
Follower
Fellowship. Aid - exert a fellowship companion.
Bearer is an archer.
"'Praised be the bow of Galadriel, and the hand and eye of Legolas!… That was a mighty shot in the dark, my friend!'"
3 V 121
coolio

• Boromir, Son of Denethor (V)
Follower
Str: +2
Fellowship. Aid - add a burden.
While bearer is a fellowship companion (except Frodo), he cannot be overwhelmed unless his strength is tripled and cannot take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
"'Long has my father, the Steward of Gondor, held the forces of Mordor at bay - by the blood of our people are the lands of others kept safe.'"
1 V 97

snazzy. maybe strength bonus should only be 1 but I am not sure

[Thranduil]

Well that was reasonably uncontroversial, so how about this Aragorn?

• Aragorn, King In Exile (V)
Follower
Str: +1
Res: +1
Fellowship. Aid - exert a fellowship companion.
Each time bearer wins a skirmish, you may heal a fellowship companion.
Each time a minion is killed in a skirmish involving bearer, you may heal a fellowship companion.
Each time a minion is overwhelmed in a skirmish involving bearer, you may heal a fellowship companion.
"'He turned from that path a long time ago. He has chosen exile…'"
1 V 365

[sickofpalantirs]

nice! I think he's really balanced.

[lem0nhead]

I think its just a *touch* too good. Maybe remove one of the stat bonuses.