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February 02, 2015, 06:40:55 AM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2160 on: February 02, 2015, 06:40:55 AM »
I also spoke to MarcinS briefly on facebook regarding the glitch for My Cards leagues. He says as best he can tell from the code, it should be functioning correctly. I also told him about My Cards tournaments appearing as All Cards tournaments. He asks one of you to send him an email regarding the specifics of this and any other current bug problems.

Done.
My current Gemp Tengwar count: 133 + 4

April 07, 2015, 01:35:53 PM
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« Reply #2161 on: April 07, 2015, 01:35:53 PM »
Got, for the second time, a bug with All Life flees. Every time i use it to discard a follower it works correctly, the problem start whan i use it to play a minion from deck: i play the card, pay the cost for the minion, but nothing happends... here's a replay of minutes ago, in wich i use it in both way.

Did i miss something? The card seems rather clear to me, so nothing criptic about interpretation of the rules or the card writing..

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Vordan$rc3v7wzn2jxsj0cw
« Last Edit: April 07, 2015, 02:05:26 PM by Vordan »

April 07, 2015, 02:32:05 PM
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« Reply #2162 on: April 07, 2015, 02:32:05 PM »
You must pay the twilight cost of the [Wraith] minion TWICE (plus [2] of the event): once for the "remove X" and once again for the "to play a [Wraith] minion of twilight cost X". So you removed 6 to play a Nazgul, M-orc or Barrow Wight whose cost is 6, but left only 5 in the pool. At least that's what I see...
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April 07, 2015, 02:53:07 PM
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« Reply #2163 on: April 07, 2015, 02:53:07 PM »
well to me the remove "X" is the cost of the minion, why should i pay it twice? (plus the 2 of the event) it's just insane.

To me is  a "decent" event that let you pull a minion from deck paying 2 more, or discard a follower.

I don't think it's mean to pay double(even if you can pull any wraith minion, who can be cheaper than a nazgul, but still a 1 cost minion would just eat 4 twilight away.. too much IMHO)

Given that the card is not a common, it seems pretty fairy as a cost to me, the way i interpreted it.

I'm curious to know what other people think.

April 07, 2015, 03:27:22 PM
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« Reply #2164 on: April 07, 2015, 03:27:22 PM »
Hmmmm, cards like Foul Tentacle, Huge Tentacle and The Bridge of Khazad-dum (1C349) allow you to play a minion from your draw deck, but you still have to pay that minion's twilight cost.

So All Life Flees makes you pay twice the Nazgul's cost, plus 2, to finally get that Nazgul on the board from your deck.

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2015, 03:32:16 PM by Durin's Heir »
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April 08, 2015, 01:29:14 AM
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« Reply #2165 on: April 08, 2015, 01:29:14 AM »
The card IS essentially useless. You're paying 2(x)+2 to pull the minion out of your deck.
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April 08, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
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« Reply #2166 on: April 08, 2015, 09:03:57 AM »
I wonder if you can play the Witch King, Captain of the Nine Riders (Toil 2) from draw deck with this card, by paying 0 (plus 2 of the event) and exerting 4 Nazgul...

If possitive, that would be the only useful thing this event might do, besides discarding followers.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2015, 09:09:27 AM by Durin's Heir »
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April 08, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
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« Reply #2167 on: April 08, 2015, 10:57:38 AM »
Not sure that would work that way. I would think you would pay the cost of the WK + 2 to retrieve him using the event, but perhaps when you play the WK you could use toil to reduce the cost of playing him. Toil doesn't reduce his printed twilight cost, just reduces the amount you pay when you put him into play. Would be interesting to test on Gemp to see what it does.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2015, 02:16:39 PM by BigRedMF »

April 08, 2015, 01:04:21 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2168 on: April 08, 2015, 01:04:21 PM »
The event shouldn't calculate the possible toil cost.

April 08, 2015, 03:59:34 PM
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« Reply #2169 on: April 08, 2015, 03:59:34 PM »
Yeah, if you pull the toil WK, you'll still pay 2+8 to play the event, but then you can use his toil to reduce his actual cost.
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April 09, 2015, 07:31:24 PM
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« Reply #2170 on: April 09, 2015, 07:31:24 PM »
10 twilight and 4 exertions to get the WK from your deck.... GARBAGE.

Then it's only useful to discard followers, or if you have much more twilight than you ever might try to use, and that's too much if we're talking about Nazgul. Ents?
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April 09, 2015, 09:11:22 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2171 on: April 09, 2015, 09:11:22 PM »
I have 2 silly bugs (possibly 3) to report.
These are the "message type" bugs which should be simpler/easier to adjust:

1. be back soon


2. new fear


3. possibly: too great and terrible (i just don't remember exactly, also if easy to check we could review trample)


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In case images aren't displayed, the bugs to fix are showing when playing the card: a "null" is out there and the opponent does not view the proper message.
Many of us are your hardcore/enduring/old school players, but newcomers who don't know the cards by heart, have told me that this leads to confusion for them.
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that i'm right...

April 12, 2015, 01:44:02 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2172 on: April 12, 2015, 01:44:02 PM »
Confirming too great and terrible shows up the null label:

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that i'm right...

May 27, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2173 on: May 27, 2015, 12:01:23 PM »
Several times in this game, Kulkoth was able to see my hand using Sting, despite my having No Business of Ours out.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Legion$87cluvfq2k6q9tpq

I just ran a test game using No Business of Ours in play with my "Ringer".

See http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Valtor$vrmx9ay042yx31ko

In Ringer FP phase at sites 4 and 6 Ringer uses 6 different ways to reveal Valtor's hand, three fail but three succeed:

Foul Creation, Uruviel, Maid of Lorien and Galadriel's Glade do not reveal Valtor's hand, presumably prevented by NBOO, but -

Curse Their Foul Feet, Glamdring and Sting all reveal Valtor's hand despite NBOO being in play, requiring discard of cards or removal of twilight as appropriate.

So NBOO is bugged again. I have sent an e-mail to MarcinS.

Thanks Valtor!

I also tested Might of Numenor, Treachery Deeper than you Know and Meant to Be Alone, none of which (like Foul Creation) revealed the hand (at least for me).

As NBOO has had trouble with this before, and then subsequently fixed, and then again is having trouble, but with different types of cards, I am wondering if this is a progressive thing and will start to affect other cards little by little...I remember around a year ago or so before MarcinS fixed it the first time that Foul Creation wasn't even stopped by it.

In any case. This is what we know now!

Save yourself the exertion and hands off of CtFF, Glamdring and Sting while NBOO is in play!

May 29, 2015, 07:26:54 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2174 on: May 29, 2015, 07:26:54 PM »
I noticed a bug with The Witch-King, Deathless Lord. See the replay, when my opponent was at Site 6 he had Rumil on the table with two wounds on him. WK killed a companion and instead of giving me the option to exert a companion OR wound an ally twice, it automatically prompted me to exert a companion. I am assuming the code may be looking for an ally with at least 2 vitality, but I don't think that should be a requirement to make the choice.

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=bigredmf$kph8lqb7knv7kbs7