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May 07, 2008, 06:04:49 AM
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2008, 06:04:49 AM »
Well it SHOULD be a unique dot. Its sick otherwise.
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May 07, 2008, 06:06:13 AM
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2008, 06:06:13 AM »
Both of my earlier posts are changed. Good?

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May 07, 2008, 06:07:30 AM
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2008, 06:07:30 AM »
I STILL dont see a unique dot lol.
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May 07, 2008, 06:08:24 AM
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2008, 06:08:24 AM »
I STILL dont see a unique dot lol.
No, that's because I changed the card so that I was hoping it would not need it. Is it better now?

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May 07, 2008, 06:10:35 AM
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2008, 06:10:35 AM »
Ahhh lol sorry for being a spanner. Hmm i almost said it was better but multiple of these out and ur gonna be healing the double exerts the same turn. Still think originally with unique is better.
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May 07, 2008, 06:18:38 AM
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2008, 06:18:38 AM »
Hmmm... IIRC Dwarves don't have much in the way of threat removal, so it's probably OK now.

May 07, 2008, 06:24:27 AM
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2008, 06:24:27 AM »
Echo Kralik though still seems good. Either youre underestimating how much damage you can make Gimli or Thrarin or you think Dwarves needs healing.
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May 07, 2008, 07:33:35 AM
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2008, 07:33:35 AM »
Echo Kralik though still seems good. Either youre underestimating how much damage you can make Gimli or Thrarin or you think Dwarves needs healing.
No, it's just that I was drawing my ideas from the original card. Trust me I know exactly how much damage Gimli or Thrarin will have!

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May 07, 2008, 07:42:21 AM
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2008, 07:42:21 AM »
Quote from: Thranduil
(0) Dwarven Heart [Dwarven]
Condition
Plays on a Dwarf. Limit 1 per bearer.
If bearer wins a skirmish, you may add 2 threats to heal X other Dwarfs where X is his damage bonus.
"'... a Dwarf goes on, be the burden twice his own weight...'"
1 V 10
Couple grammatical fixes:

If bearer wins a skirmish, you may add 2 threats to heal X other Dwarves, where X is bearer's damage bonus.

Seems very powerful, but not broken. Threats for healing is usually a good trade-off, and the others are right in that they're tricky for Dwarves to remove. I'd love pairing this with Frodo bearing RoD and lots of NFFatRoD. ;D
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May 07, 2008, 09:23:58 AM
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2008, 09:23:58 AM »
The main reason I wasn't going to make Dwarven Heart unique, by the way, is that I'm obeying my own rules for virtual cards (ie. no changes above the type/sub-type banner).

Now a few virtual possessions (but still [Dwarven] - my favourite culture and the first I ever made DCs for, as it happens!).

(0) Dwarven Armor (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Armor
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him and make him lose damage +X until the regroup phase to make a minion he is skirmishing lose X gametext keywords until the regroup phase.
The strongest armor still being made in Middle-Earth is forged by the Dwarves. It is so heavy, that only they can bear it.
1 V 8

(0) Dwarven Axe (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Each [Dwarven] skirmish event played in a skirmish involving bearer is twilight cost -X, where X Is bearer's damage bonus.
"' Buckler and corset, axe and sword / And shining spears were laid in horde."'
1 V 9

You may be noticing a pattern with my approach to these cards. Basically, I'm applying the later Honed and Proud and Able damage strategy to Fellowship cards.

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« Last Edit: May 08, 2008, 07:56:32 AM by Thranduil »

May 07, 2008, 06:19:47 PM
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2008, 06:19:47 PM »
The main reason I wasn't going to make Dwarven Heart unique, by the way, is that I'm obeying my own rules for virtual cards (ie. no changes above the type/sub-type banner).

Now a few virtual possessions (but still [Dwarven] - my favourite culture and the first I ever made DCs for, as it happens!).

(0) Dwarven Armor (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Armor
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him to make him damage +1.
The strongest armor still being made in Middle-Earth is forged by the Dwarves. It is so heavy, that only they can bear it.
1 V 8
maybe until the regroup phase...

(0) Dwarven Axe (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Skirmish: Play a [Dwarven] skirmish event during a skirmish involving bearer at twilight -X, where X is bearer's damage bonus.
"' Buckler and corset, axe and sword / And shining spears were laid in horde."'
1 V 9
well dwarves have a lot of zero cost good events...but still useful with awkward moment and such.
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May 08, 2008, 01:54:30 AM
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2008, 01:54:30 AM »
Or Dwarf-Lords, or Counts But One.

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May 08, 2008, 03:45:40 AM
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2008, 03:45:40 AM »
The main reason I wasn't going to make Dwarven Heart unique, by the way, is that I'm obeying my own rules for virtual cards (ie. no changes above the type/sub-type banner).

Argh! If you'd have just said that from the start it would have been easier!

(0) Dwarven Armor (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Armor
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him to make him damage +1.
The strongest armor still being made in Middle-Earth is forged by the Dwarves. It is so heavy, that only they can bear it.
1 V 8

Fine but how is that armor related? Not very themed.

(0) Dwarven Axe (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Skirmish: Play a [Dwarven] skirmish event during a skirmish involving bearer at twilight -X, where X is bearer's damage bonus.
"' Buckler and corset, axe and sword / And shining spears were laid in horde."'
1 V 9

Phrase it "the twilight cost of each skirmish event played during a skirmish involving bearer is -X. Where X is bearer's damage bonus." Powerful i guess as it basically means dwarves will never pay for skirmish events but most of em are free anyway so its ok.

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May 08, 2008, 07:52:23 AM
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2008, 07:52:23 AM »
I agree with lem0n. I really don't like the armor much at all. Just doesn't make any sense.
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May 08, 2008, 07:56:58 AM
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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2008, 07:56:58 AM »
How about this?

(0) Dwarven Armor (V) [Dwarven]
Possession • Armor
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Each minion skirmishing bearer loses all attribute bonuses from possessions.
Skirmish: Make a Dwarf that is damage +1 lose all damage bonuses until the regroup phase to play this possession from your discard pile on that Dwarf.
The strongest armor still being made in Middle-Earth is forged by the Dwarves. It is so heavy, that only they can bear it.
1 V 8

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« Last Edit: May 08, 2008, 08:19:47 AM by Thranduil »