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May 20, 2020, 06:42:08 AM
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Re: Article Feedback
« Reply #345 on: May 20, 2020, 06:42:08 AM »
Instead of "read through a bunch of cards," I recommend searching card text using either Zorbec's or the database source. Great work so far!

May 20, 2020, 02:50:30 PM
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« Reply #346 on: May 20, 2020, 02:50:30 PM »
Thanks!

The tricky part is "you don't know what you don't know". I can't search for terms I don't know exist (or rather, don't remember they exist). This came up most recently on the Facebook group when someone asked about canceling the ring-bearer's skirmish. My first thought was "oh, I'm sure there's a page on Canceling I can link to", only to find that no one had thought to make one.  It would be the work of twenty minutes for me to find all cards with the word "cancel" in them. It's a harder undertaking to remember the word "cancel" is used at all.

One potential answer is to do some word-frequency analysis to try and pin down what concepts come up the most and check to see that a article was created, but it seems to me that it's going to be faster and less noisy to just browse through the ~3000 cards, checking the index every time I think I see a new word that hasn't been accounted for. Or do the same thing for each entry in the comprehensive guide. Or both.
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May 20, 2020, 02:53:53 PM
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« Reply #347 on: May 20, 2020, 02:53:53 PM »
Oh, to be clear I'm not talking about tallying all the cards with a particular concept (that I would use scripts for), I'm talking purely checking to make sure all concepts and mechanics have an article accounting for them. Once all possible articles are in, *then* use scripts to find all cards that reference those concepts.
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June 01, 2020, 01:36:35 AM
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« Reply #348 on: June 01, 2020, 01:36:35 AM »
Speaking of scripts, I've revamped my list-making script, the one that I used to generate the lists of "all cards containing X", such as the one at the Wound article.  Previously I was just sort of haphazardly editing the script for each new article, then overwriting those changes for each new one (since, I supposed, once the list was made there was no need to go back and re-generate it).  I discovered a reason: the list format was butt-ugly and didn't actually convey enough needed information.

So!  Now it generates an actual table, which takes up far more space but it easier to follow and can much more easily be the one-stop shop these articles should be.  Please take a look at the Wound article linked above and let me know if there's some element of the table(S) that could be improved.  

This time I've written the code in such a way that those two tables are preserved in my output forever, so if I alter, say, the columns being generated it's the work of a few minutes to copy-paste the new version into the article.

One advantage of having the game text right there is that I can see more clearly when my regex failed-- Plains of Rohan Camp, listed under "Cards that Prevent Wounds", doesn't do that at all!  It's easy to see how its wording defeated my regex, and so I'll be improving it and re-pasting the table in at a later date.  (The whole point of this revamp was for me to display the items in the Signet page better, and Wound was a convenient stress test of the rewrite.)
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June 01, 2020, 02:16:30 AM
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« Reply #349 on: June 01, 2020, 02:16:30 AM »
Revamped the Signets article with a similar table overhaul.
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June 01, 2020, 10:09:49 PM
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« Reply #350 on: June 01, 2020, 10:09:49 PM »
Updated all the culture icons used, using down-scaled vector versions of the cultures to get better clarity than the ancient muddy forum versions used.

And then since I had foolishly made them 32 pixels tall I realized I broke every single in-line usage of the icons, so I did the process again to get them down to 16.  They're just a moderate improvement, but it's noticeable, I think.  Best example is the Coat of Mail article with how many culture icons it uses.

I am going to re-upload the larger versions tho for use in sections and tables for clarity's sake.
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June 01, 2020, 11:06:45 PM
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« Reply #351 on: June 01, 2020, 11:06:45 PM »
Created Alignment, which was put together to explain what Decipher means by "kind" or "side", both of which are ambiguous terms (this is referring to the difference between Free Peoples and Shadow).
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November 17, 2021, 01:32:19 PM
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« Reply #352 on: November 17, 2021, 01:32:19 PM »
Necroing this ol' faithful thread, since there's a reason for it to exist again!

Recent articles that have been added by me:

https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Two-Player_QuickStart_Set
https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/2002_Toy_Fair_Calendar
https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Film_Cell_Cards

https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Customizable_League_Cards
https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Hunters_Design-a-Card_Contest

https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/PC_Errata

In addition, this article has been completely revamped to no longer be an ongoing embarrassment:
https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Rulebooks

And all of the set indices have been overhauled and attached to the main page of their particular set, with three varieties available:

https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/The_Fellowship_of_the_Ring/Index
https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/The_Fellowship_of_the_Ring/Thumbs
https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/The_Fellowship_of_the_Ring/Compact


And, because this is a wiki that has actual working Features We Can Use, here is the Recent Changes page with a filter applied to show a summary of what everyone has been working on!

https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?userExpLevel=unregistered%3Bregistered%3Bnewcomer%3Blearner&hidebots=1&hidepreviousrevisions=1&hidenewpages=1&hidelog=1&namespace=0&limit=500&days=90&urlversion=2

I would particularly like to call attention to Phallen Cassidy's excellent in-depth card articles, such as this one: https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Hill_Clan_ (6R6) .  I won't steal his thunder further tho if he wants to post his own pages himself.
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November 17, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
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« Reply #353 on: November 17, 2021, 01:35:25 PM »
Revamped the Signets article with a similar table overhaul.

And hey, while history doesn't repeat itself, it certainly rhymes:

https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Signets

This page hopefully shows off all the power of having the cards in a queryable database; those tables are dynamically created and can automatically update as new entries are added, or just be written to find "every card with X property" without needing to do it by hand.
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